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Master AI (Artificial Intelligence) Discussion/News Thread

Costs for using AI are rising as providers try to make less of a loss. Between that, a lack of pricing transparency and lack of optimisation tools it's getting to the point where it's costing as much as the people it's replacing. Given they're still not at break-even, the costs are going to have to go up further, which may price them out of the market they're aiming for.
https://www.theregister.com/ai-and-...t-more-than-the-developers-using-them/5260864
 
I had a funny experience with Google AI today. I asked a question about EQ and ai's answer was partially using data scraped from this website! Even better, it was a comment made by myself on this forum:D. Clearly, AI has no good judgement!
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If you start seein' my drivel quoted by AI -- dump that OpenAI and Anthropic stock, pronto!
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AI relies Wikipedia and is constantly threatened by bots

"Artificial intelligence developers have relied deeply on Wikipedia to train the large language models behind popular chatbots, which weight clean, reasonably reliable information sources more heavily than the rest of the web. Chatbots and AI-powered search engines have intensified Wikipedia’s significance, even as they siphon its readers by answering questions directly, with fewer people going to the source site itself."

 
GamersNexus has been providing excellent coverage of AI’s impact on manufacturers

Their newest video is about Micron’s latest earnings report. Obviously revenue is up, but it’s notable that margins are up in the consumer sector, despite demand being lowered due to price increases. The video also discusses Micron’s political lobbying


At a high level, it is hard for me to fathom the situation we’re in: the stock market enthusiasm, investment, and government enablement. To me, it seems so far beyond AI’s real world commercial benefit. The demand seems artificial. I’m a layman with no skin in the game, but surely we’re witnessing a cash grab, and a bubble that’ll pop. I can’t imagine anyone can rationalise the current situation.

And that’s not even mentioning the environmental impact of the data centres. The whole thing makes me ill.

Edit: for context, I’m not even a hardline anti-AI guy. I think there’s valid use cases for it. But I feel like we’re witnessing capitalism and its ugliest (save for the industrial military complex)
 
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And that’s not even mentioning the environmental impact of the data centres. The whole thing makes me ill.
While for us it is merely a cause for concern, others are actually falling ill, having to cope with massive price hikes for energy and water, and seeing their property rendered virtually worthless by external factors.

I understand that AI isn't a scam in principle but actually offers real utility—for instance, in medical diagnostics. I recently had to draft a contract to "exempt" myself from a tax. In the past, I would have gone to a notary for this, but AI handled it for me very quickly. A colleague (a lawyer) found no errors in it upon a cursory review.
But for everything and everyone? When you look at the actual costs of producing a short, low-effort AI video of a dachshund snowboarding, it simply won't pay off.
To me, it looks like a massive circular economy that is completely decoupled from the end consumer and the revenue that actually needs to be generated in the end. It is a "too big to fail" situation, albeit on a much larger scale than ever before. And no one is willing to burst the bubble, given the consequences.
Personally, I haven't spent any money on AI subscriptions so far, and that’s likely the case for most people. On my gaming PC I’ve rarely used local AI applications for image upscaling, though I’d actually like to upgrade it to increase VR performance. But given the massive price inflation: no thanks.
 
Micron has inked “Strategic Customer Agreements” (SCAs) with sixteen companies:


"The CEO said 16 customers have signed SCAs and then explained why it's worth locking into the deals even though they bake in such high margins. "Our customers are recognizing that supply shortages in memory and storage will take considerable time to improve," he said. "Even as we expect industry supply to improve gradually in 2028, we currently do not have line of sight as to when memory supply will be able to catch up with increasing demand."

Even massive efforts to build new chip fabs aren't much help, he said, because the increasing complexity of new memory types means it takes longer to build factories -- and when they come online there still won't be enough capacity to build both the high-bandwidth memory needed for AI and other types of NAND and DRAM. "Supply is structurally constrained in its growth and ability to meet industry demand, despite our comprehensive efforts to increase supply," he said.
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Micron Third Quarter 2026 Prepared Remarks (PDF).

Basically, they are saying that the artificial shortage that they have created will continue into the future to keep supplies constrained and prices elevated and that no matter what any other industry players do, there will be no viable solution to the massive price-fixing scheme that they have engaged for the forseeable future. Because of the SCAs that they signed, Micron has guaranteed income and profit levels for at least the next five years no matter what happens to the GPT bubble. I'm surprised that they didn't think of this scheme sooner.
 
Basically, they are saying that the artificial shortage that they have created will continue into the future to keep supplies constrained and prices elevated and that no matter what any other industry players do, there will be no viable solution to the massive price-fixing scheme that they have engaged for the forseeable future. Because of the SCAs that they signed, Micron has guaranteed income and profit levels for at least the next five years no matter what happens to the GPT bubble. I'm surprised that they didn't think of this scheme sooner.
I think that's at least partially wrong. Memory and storage manufacturers haven't created an artificial shortage. AI companies have generated a large demand spike that wasn't predicted far enough in advance to do anything about as it takes multiple years to bring new production capacity online. The market has done what it always does when demand outstrips supply - prices rise until they match again. Manufacturers are laughing all the way to the bank, and the rest of us are just collateral damage until the bubble bursts.
 
I'm grateful to amirm and all the forum members for the opportunity this thread gives to comment on #AI.
#AI per se is not bad in and of itself, and has many useful applications e.g. medical diagnostics.
But let us not confuse that with the scourge that is Large Language Models that first steal from human writers then convert their effort into energy hungry problem solving algorithms for lazy people too tired to think through problems for themselves.
 
A friend reported to me yesterday that he's started getting ads in chatgpt
Me to. If you don't pay now or only pay the lowest tier, you get ads. It looks like this.

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The excellent Benn Jordan dives into a.i. in his latest expose of all things ******, if you’re just after his a.i. rant it begins at 20mins in but worth watching all of this 40min video

 
Aspiring professional soccer/football players in Brazil are uploading video showcasing their talent to recruitment apps using A.I. find prospects.

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Me to. If you don't pay now or only pay the lowest tier, you get ads. It looks like this.
ChatGPT is not my main AI tool but still use it quite often, I'm on their free tier and I'm not seeing any ads so far. I'm using conservative settings wrt privacy and data sharing, maybe that helps....
 
ChatGPT is not my main AI tool but still use it quite often, I'm on their free tier and I'm not seeing any ads so far. I'm using conservative settings wrt privacy and data sharing, maybe that helps....
I think it is location specific - WAITWAY?
 
The only one with money in the bank is nvidia, how long can everyone keep throwing money at it?

 
The only one with money in the bank is nvidia, how long can everyone keep throwing money at it?

That's only because nvidia is the only hardware manufacturer they included. We've recently had posts about Micron having locked in minimum pricing deals at elevated prices for 5 years. Before that we had memory and storage manufacturers saying at the start of the year that they'd sold their entire production capacity until the end of '27. Gas turbine generator manufacturers likewise. I'm sure there are many others like the companies building the datacentres. It's much like the people selling mining equipment being the ones that did really well out of the gold rush.
 
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