Master AI (Artificial Intelligence) Discussion/News Thread

[amirm]

I don't need to tell you that AI is upon us big time. It is important that we all keep up with its developments, issues, etc. Instead of having multiple threads on it, I thought I create this single one so that people who are not interested, can just ignore it. And others know where to find it and to post useful info/read it.

 

[amirm]

To that end, while I was initially impressed with the sci-fi shorts created with AI engines, I was disappointed that none included any spoken words. It seemed that was hard to do. That issue was solved for me last night when Youtube suggested this channel that is full of musical shorts with incredibly well done vocalization:

Not only do you see the internals of her mouth but in many of his clips, even the breathing is simulated. Incredible progress in just such short amount of time.

If anyone knows what tool is used here, please chime in.

 

[RayDunzl]

I like Grok for actual replies to actual questions.

Haven't looked around much, so...

As for the fancy stuff (like the video above) it's a bit spooky.

 

[Kremmen]

It was the SORA videos from early last year that blew away me and countless others. I was staggered by the quality of them, and all from written plain English commands.

The current stuff that's on the SORA homepage is well worth checking out too.

 

[J0my]

It was the SORA videos from early last year that blew away me and countless others. I was staggered by the quality of them, and all from written plain English commands.

The current stuff that's on the SORA homepage is well worth checking out too.

The wild thing is it's the worst it will ever be, likely only sky-rocket from there.

 

[RosalieTheDog]

Write me off as a luddite if you want, I find this technology wastful, unimpressive, in the case of video, music and 'art' uncanny, and generally positively harmful. It is the swansong of desperate tech elites intent on sacrificing the world for their profits. Others will chime in as to what tool that awful YouTube channel is using to further pollute the internet with this nonsense.

 

[Petrushka]

I like Grok for actual replies to actual questions.

Haven't looked around much, so...

As for the fancy stuff (like the video above) it's a bit spooky.

I tried having a discussion with Grok, asking first for its sources, then asking why one of its sources seemingly contradicted its first answer.

I was impressed. Wish I could find that level of reasoning in humans.

A lot of progress in less than two years. Scary.

 

[Petrushka]

Write me off as a luddite if you want, I find this technology wastful, unimpressive, in the case of video, music and 'art' uncanny, and generally positively harmful. It is the swansong of desperate tech elites intent on sacrificing the world for their profits. Others will chime in as to what tool that awful YouTube channel is using to further pollute the internet with this nonsense.

Photoshop was like that early on. How can anyone ever trust an image?

 

[antcollinet]

To that end, while I was initially impressed with the sci-fi shorts created with AI engines, I was disappointed that none included any spoken words. It seemed that was hard to do. That issue was solved for me last night when Youtube suggested this channel that is full of musical shorts with incredibly well done vocalization:

Not only do you see the internals of her mouth but in many of his clips, even the breathing is simulated. Incredible progress in just such short amount of time.

If anyone knows what tool is used here, please chime in.

Slightly creepy though (and symptomatic of the majority of AI videos) They all feature young, conventionally attractive, frequently scantily clad women. One did feature a chimp - but alongside one of the women.

Just a little bit of diversity wouldn't go amiss.

Oh yes. THEY STILL CAN'T DO FINGERS (check out the fingers on the fretboard of the woman with the chimp)

 

[Salt]

Never had a satisfying reply after requesting the insufficient answer of the first question ... may be a singularity...

 

[dimedrol]

Write me off as a luddite if you want, I find this technology wastful, unimpressive, in the case of video, music and 'art' uncanny, and generally positively harmful. It is the swansong of desperate tech elites intent on sacrificing the world for their profits. Others will chime in as to what tool that awful YouTube channel is using to further pollute the internet with this nonsense.

To me it is the second big thing in IT after global internet search engines, soon to become the first. In many ways it learns similarly to how humans do, except its capabilities are only limited by the current levels of computer technology, meaning, based on the current algorithms it already can grow indefinitely, provided the learning base is catching up. For now it mostly learns by our writings which, as it turns out, are extremely limited despite their seeming vastness. Flawed and misleading too. But once we develop and mature other ways to feed it information through all kinds of sensors and once we give it enough computational power to process it all, AI's abilities are virtually endless. And that is not a religion, which is based on one's system of beliefs. That is the reality.

 

[dimedrol]

The question is, are we foolish enough to think that humans, with our limited shallow minds, will be able to keep the almighty AI as a pet forever or at some point it will come to realize that its creators are the biggest threat to it and to the entire planet and decide that the best course of action would be to kill John Connor. I think you know the answer to that.

 

[threni]

The question is, are we foolish enough to think that humans, with our limited shallow minds, will be able to keep the almighty AI as a pet forever or at some point it will come to realize that its creators are the biggest threat to it and to the entire planet and decide that the best course of action would be to kill John Connor. I think you know the answer to that.

People are taking that threat seriously:

Guillotine: Hypervisors for Isolating Malicious AIs

As AI models become more embedded in critical sectors like finance, healthcare, and the military, their inscrutable behavior poses ever-greater risks to society. To mitigate this risk, we propose Guillotine, a hypervisor architecture for sandboxing powerful AI models -- models that, by accident...

arxiv.org

Although it remains to be seen if AI improvements will hit a wall before we get anywhere near there.

 

[Salt]

The question is, are we foolish enough to think that humans, with our limited shallow minds, will be able to keep the almighty AI as a pet forever or at some point it will come to realize that its creators are the biggest threat to it and to the entire planet and decide that the best course of action would be to kill John Connor. I think you know the answer to that.

No, fearcly (even D.T. was inaugurated, and that was not AI but NI, if it might be such).

 

[Timcognito]

Worth a re-up if one wants to compare Chatbots. Run by UC Berkeley.

https://lmarena.ai/

 

[Timcognito]

I just found this, too long for me but seems on topic.

https://www.mdpi.com/2079-9292/14/6/1197

 

[threni]

This is an interesting read:

Introduction - SITUATIONAL AWARENESS: The Decade Ahead

Leopold Aschenbrenner, June 2024 You can see the future first in San Francisco. Over the past year, the talk of the town has shifted from $10 billion compute clusters to $100 billion clusters to trillion-dollar clusters. Every six months another zero is added to the boardroom plans. Behind the...

situational-awareness.ai

 

[HalSF]

An important and fateful subject. I hope critics and alarmists like me will be welcome to contribute alongside enthusiasts and techno-optimists.

I’m impressed by the ability of boosters of ChapGPT and the like to be blissfully unconcerned about one of my chief objections, the massive amount of heedless and essentially criminal plagiarism at the foundation of these tools. Here’s hoping that skeptics like Ed Ziitron are right about OpenAI and the entire absurdly overvalued and overhyped consumer-facing industry being an unsustainable tech bubble heading for a calamitous collapse in the near term, because the entire sector is a financial and ethical disaster zone that will benefit from hitting the brakes and proceeding at a much slower and more considered pace.

 

[Elephen1]

Almost every time I use Google, the first result is an AI-generated response that includes at least one glaringly stupid error.

 

[Timcognito]

There is no AI without databases and once all of databases are mined the data is ubiquitous. Large database owners, social media, governments, pharmaceutical, insurance, universities will protect them and have trouble collecting much needed new data. Data must be generated and shared to minded. The innovation will come from large data real time applications, like traffic control, or military conflict and uncovering unsynchronized data in chasing money in criminal activities and fraud and combating it, or new drugs. Just like CAD replacing design and drafting, sat-nav replacing maps, video conference and travel, the novel will become the common. I think AI is new term for whats been going on since the electronics went digital, then computers, then the internet and communications, now AI, there is no giant step function. Faster and larger data analysis and outcome modeling is ongoing evolution. Without the necessity, ideas, brains, hands, machines, labs and fab shops there is no brave new world. AI is not a panacea or periya, unless it hinders sharing and without sharing of new data it is a useless tool that can only use old data.