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Marantz MODEL M1 Wireless Streaming Amplifier

Thanks. Never found what the issue actually was myself. That's a good explanation.

Regarding the sound and what kind of music it suits. I think the choice of speakers are more important. If you combine the Marantz warm sound with a pair of speakers that are also on the warm sound. I suspect it may sound a bit wolly.
The sound is not particularly warm. The amp uses global feedback to achieve neutral response across any load, much like PFFB on TPA3255-based amps. There are two reconstruction filters to choose from, the standard Filter 1 which, according to some, might be warmer than neutral, likely due mild roll-off in the very high frequencies. Just use Filter 2 for a proper neutral response (if the difference is even perceptible by the listening individual).
 
The sound is not particularly warm. The amp uses global feedback to achieve neutral response across any load, much like PFFB on TPA3255-based amps. There are two reconstruction filters to choose from, the standard Filter 1 which, according to some, might be warmer than neutral, likely due mild roll-off in the very high frequencies. Just use Filter 2 for a proper neutral response (if the difference is even perceptible by the listening individual).
Well. When buying it. I heard it against an eversolo amp. And of those two, the Marantz sounded a bit more warm and full bodied then the eversolo. That was at least in my ears. And others might hear it different.
 
Well. When buying it. I heard it against an eversolo amp. And of those two, the Marantz sounded a bit more warm and full bodied then the eversolo. That was at least in my ears. And others might hear it different.
When not driven into distortion, all amplifliers sound the same. The warm Marantz sound is a myth.

You have to test blind and level matched

 
Well. When buying it. I heard it against an eversolo amp. And of those two, the Marantz sounded a bit more warm and full bodied then the eversolo. That was at least in my ears. And others might hear it different.
Which Eversolo amp? It might not have PFFB, so depending on the attached speakers, it may or may not have rolled off or exaggerated high frequencies, compared to the neutral M1.
 
Eversolo Play does not have PFFB. It is load-dependent for frequency response.
If we assume it behaves like the AMP F2, you are talking about maybe +0.3 dB at 10kHz? I don't think anyone would detect that

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Could it be that there difference in wattage alone can cause a speaker to sound different? The Eversolo is after all a bit less powerfull
 
Could it be that there difference in wattage alone can cause a speaker to sound different? The Eversolo is after all a bit less powerfull
Highly unlikely unless played in a very large room/listened to from very far away/played extremely loudly.
 
Highly unlikely unless played in a very large room/listened to from very far away/played extremely loudly.
I'm not saying I have the answer why. It might be placebo.

But to me there was without a doubt a difference. Not a huge difference, but it was certainly there. And I heard it as a slightly warmer rounder sound.
 
The DUT contains a digital end-to-end signal path, which requires internal DSP (digital signal processing) to perform - digital volume control, bass management, sub integration (with adjustable crossover), tone shaping, digital filters, PCM → PWM modulation for the digital amplifier stage, streaming, decoding, upsampling, downsampling. How on earth is this merely an amplifier?
Check Amir's reviewing many different digital to analog domain converters and how they affect the audio!
 
The DUT contains a digital end-to-end signal path, which requires internal DSP (digital signal processing) to perform - digital volume control, bass management, sub integration (with adjustable crossover), tone shaping, digital filters, PCM → PWM modulation for the digital amplifier stage, streaming, decoding, upsampling, downsampling. How on earth is this merely an amplifier?
Check Amir's reviewing many different digital to analog domain converters and how they affect the audio!
This might be a novive question. But if it's not merely an amp. What is it?
 
Not sure if it was previously posted/linked yet, but apparently HiFiNews did take objective measurements of the amp, proving that global feedback is working and achieves audibly neutral frequency response from 20-20,000Hz regardless of speaker load, although it starts going into protection at/below 2ohms.

SINAD at 1KHz is within range of WiiM VibeLink and Fosi V3 Mono. This is the highest performance from a pure digital (PCM -> PWM, zero analog stage) consumer-level amplifier, not to mention the load-independent frequency response.

While one could argue that this is an expensive amp for the performance and power output, remember that it includes bass management, DIRAC Live integration, and ARC input with Dolby Digital+ downmixing including virtual surround, speech enhancement, and dynamic range compression for late night movie watching. It’s not meant to compete directly with pure stereo or monobloc power amplifiers; it’s meant to be a one-box-to-do-it-all solution for people happy to use only a 2.0 or 2.1 setup for both music and movies. From that standpoint, it outperforms a LOT of alternatives for equal or significantly more money even once DIRAC Live license cost is factored in.


EDIT—Link to first page of article:

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Not sure if it was previously posted/linked yet, but apparently HiFiNews did take objective measurements of the amp, proving that global feedback is working and achieves audibly neutral frequency response from 20-20,000Hz regardless of speaker load, although it starts going into protection at/below 2ohms.

SINAD at 1KHz is within range of WiiM VibeLink and Fosi V3 Mono. This is the highest performance from a pure digital (PCM -> PWM, zero analog stage) consumer-level amplifier, not to mention the load-independent frequency response.

While one could argue that this is an expensive amp for the performance and power output, remember that it includes bass management, DIRAC Live integration, and ARC input with Dolby Digital+ downmixing including virtual surround, speech enhancement, and dynamic range compression for late night movie watching. It’s not meant to compete directly with pure stereo or monobloc power amplifiers; it’s meant to be a one-box-to-do-it-all solution for people happy to use only a 2.0 or 2.1 setup for both music and movies. From that standpoint, it outperforms a LOT of alternatives for equal or significantly more money even once DIRAC Live license cost is factored in.


EDIT—Link to first page of article:

-Ed
I read that review to. Would you say it's safe to assume that it can deliver the 100w down to 2 ohm where it will start protecting itself ?
 
I read that review to. Would you say it's safe to assume that it can deliver the 100w down to 2 ohm where it will start protecting itself ?
Seems like it. I have no way to test it and my speakers are nominal 8ohm, 6ohm minimal, so I don’t come anywhere close to the limits.
 
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