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Marantz Model 10 integrated amplifier
restorer-john
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Way more people than you think. Marantz has made limited edition runs of product in the past where they only built 500 units. This is not a limited edition AFAIK. They will sell a few thousand worldwide I expect.
I would rather go on vacation with that money!
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25% of US families have over $1 million in assets.
10% of US families have assets above $7 million.
There's certainly money available for this type of purchase. It's simply a matter of whether someone desires it.
10% of US families have assets above $7 million.
There's certainly money available for this type of purchase. It's simply a matter of whether someone desires it.
Those are absolute pennies in high end audio or luxury home theater biz
It’s probably closer to 19% but that’s IRS data. Much of that is based off of real estate inflation and doesn’t factor in mortgage debt or other debt. It also includes 401k’s and other retirement accounts. Most families worth 1 million are living paycheck to paycheck which current cost of living and spending habits. Sure many of them could buy a $15,000 receiver but they probably shouldn’t.
DSJR
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At this stage in my life and with the room and money to spend, I'd sooner have a set of KH420s and a suitable preamp to drive them I think (I have various analogue and digital sources)...
I have to ask, has all this cladding in copper actually been proved to be beneficial? My Philips CD960/Marantz CD94 based CD player (there was a common donor chassis) has copper boxes covering almost everything, this in addition to the heavy milled top cover and solid bottom equivalent. Had to justify its original £2800 price I suppose
DSJR
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As an aside, people living within easy commuting distance of London (the 'home counties' in other words) are seeing a 'humble' mid-wars three-bed-semi pushing dangerously close to a million quid and a detached house of similar age can be well over a million now I gather. Again, huge mortgage, commute fares (one kind-of balances out the other), childcare fees as both have to work full time and a leased huge SUV-style tank (sorry, vehicle), wipe out any free cash they may have (oh, and the phone and Sky TV contract that's mandatory these days).
Apologies, rant over.
I gather that higher end gear does sell in the UK, but it's maybe no more than twenty or thirty pieces of any given model. Germany used to be the European capital of high-end audio and maybe still is?
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Home prices are up over 300% since 2010.
S&P 500 is at 5635. It was 666 at the low of 2008, up 846%.
Inflation in these assets has been extraordinary.
You didn't have to do much to accumulate a million+ in assets. If you bought a home before 2010 and participated in a 401K and/or IRA each year since 2008 your household is typically worth well over $1,000,000. Inflation did the rest.
Our grandchildren may find home ownership difficult. Perhaps a reversion to the mean could be in order. Otherwise, the financial security of many younger people may well be dependent on inheriting the family home.
Don't think the expensive Hifi will have as many buyers in the near future. This Marantz probably won't be worth $2,000 in 5-7 years. There is no real need for it in an environment where a person can't even afford a home.
S&P 500 is at 5635. It was 666 at the low of 2008, up 846%.
Inflation in these assets has been extraordinary.
You didn't have to do much to accumulate a million+ in assets. If you bought a home before 2010 and participated in a 401K and/or IRA each year since 2008 your household is typically worth well over $1,000,000. Inflation did the rest.
Our grandchildren may find home ownership difficult. Perhaps a reversion to the mean could be in order. Otherwise, the financial security of many younger people may well be dependent on inheriting the family home.
Don't think the expensive Hifi will have as many buyers in the near future. This Marantz probably won't be worth $2,000 in 5-7 years. There is no real need for it in an environment where a person can't even afford a home.
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Active speakers are definitely the way to go in terms of overall sound quality. The Marantz AV10 would actually serve well as the preamp if you didn’t go up to Trinnov.
The problem of the KH420 is just dealing with the 12V trigger on if your listening room is wide. That’s where I wish Neumann and Genelec would just use PowerCon20 or similar designs for daisy chaining power.
But the spatial effects of something like a MBL speaker or Magnepan are difficult to reproduce with speakers (maybe you can with Atmos mixes). Even with your KH420, it would be nice to have a 2 channel setup with this Model 10, if you came into a lot of money and enjoyed this kind of stuff.
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That's an original Marantz unit, not this Purifi garbage disguised as Marantz.It was actually 1979/80 when it first came out. In production for at least 6 years IIRC.
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Marantz Sm 1000 on thevintageknob.org
vintage Marantz ESOTEC power-amplifier - the very last of the USA Marantzwww.thevintageknob.org
I've only ever seen one and that was ~15 years ago. It was a writeoff due to a bad technician. The owner wanted to give it to me for free at the time I picked up a Sansui receiver for parts and I foolishly said no thanks. It was too badly destroyed internally and I knew it would end up in my storeroom forever. With hindsight, I should have taken it.
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So Purifi is garbage...
Seriously, that is an impossible to defend position. Please define your terms. What constitutes Purifi as garbage?
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It doesn't weigh 90lbs.
I can barely lift my Monolith-7X at 93lbs.
My Purifi weighs 6lbs. It's a dream come true to move around.
On top of that, I can't distinguish an audio difference switching between Monolith-7X and Purifi after compensating for gain. However, the Monolith 7X will get warmer and uses almost 10x more Watts while idle.
We want amps that break your back when you pick them up so they are less likely to be stolen and we need a foot warmer as well as to support the power company with tons of phantom power use. Right?
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15k€/$/£ means literally entry level High End. So quite a few people, I would say...
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I can't tell if this is trolling or not.
I’ve always wondered, who the heck is picking their amps up and moving them around all the time. Mine tend to stay put for about a decade, a few minutes of sweat isn’t a big deal.It doesn't weigh 90lbs.
I can barely lift my Monolith-7X at 93lbs.
My Purifi weighs 6lbs. It's a dream come true to move around.
On top of that, I can't distinguish an audio difference switching between Monolith-7X and Purifi after compensating for gain. However, the Monolith 7X will get warmer and uses almost 10x more Watts while idle.
We want amps that break your back when you pick them up so they are less likely to be stolen and we need a foot warmer as well as to support the power company with tons of phantom power use. Right?
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