Weight and size is no longer a good indicator at over 25 lbs or so, but if you look at the teardown photos, the AV10 has much better build quality.
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Marantz AV10 AV Processor Review
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Marantz AV 10 and AMP 10 System Now Available
Marantz has announced that it is taking orders for the AV 10 and AMP 10 starting today, February 14, 2023. The cost of each component is $7,000 ($14K for the pair) which puts it above AV receivers but still well below some other separates-based home theater AV solutions. The AV 10 is a new...
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One little 'failure' in the design of the AV880x is still in the AV10:
the 'color' of the round display is different than the lower display.
Not a biggie but just annoying that no one at Marantz seems to be aware and redesigns this.
the sales people do seem to care: they Photoshop the colors(white) to be the same:
the 'color' of the round display is different than the lower display.
Not a biggie but just annoying that no one at Marantz seems to be aware and redesigns this.
the sales people do seem to care: they Photoshop the colors(white) to be the same:
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Based on what they presented in that Masimo Video, the A1H's were comparable, less than 2dB difference if I remember right.
These guys do a good job too:
It is just simply insane the quality of this machine. Belongs on Jays Audio Lab; built like a Gryphon Diablo amplifier. Like Donald Trump taking a bullet.
I wish someone would pair this processor with the monster McIntosh hybrid (tube, solid-state) amplifiers stacks with the analog direct of the Marantz and do a blind test and tell me what sounds better. HDAM filter on / off depending on the content.
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Easy to know the answer
, if blind test, that "someone" with perfect hearing, will not be able to tell the difference, let alone better, don't we have enough studies done on this already. I recently auditioned one of those hybrid amp in a high end store, did not hear anything significant, compared to what I have at home, just sighted listening though. I love those kind of amps, preamps, but not because what they sound, because they are going to sound transparently to the input signal anyway.You can select filter 1 or filter 2, but they are the dac output filters, HDAMs are not filters, they are buffer amp stage, likely with unity gain (if they are like those use in the AV8805), at the end of the preamp, just before an opamp buffer that drives the power amps. You cannot turn the HDAMs off, they are hard wired in place, if one wants them "off", get the Denon A1H and use preamp mode.
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What is pure analog direct mode? No subwoofer output? No digitizing the input?Easy to know the answer
You can select filter 1 or filter 2, but they are the dac output filters, HDAMs are not filters, they are buffer amp stage, likely with unity gain (if they are like those use in the AV8805), at the end of the preamp, just before an opamp buffer that drives the power amps. You can turn the HDAMs off, they are hard wired in place, if one wants them "off", get the Denon A1H and use preamp mode.
There is no such mode, so I assume you meant using analog input and select pure direct mode?
Yes. No AD conversion? Is that not the case?
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Have you got reason to believe that the McIntosh amps are so bad that their output is not acoustically transparent?
That is the only possible reason to conduct the test you requested.
No misunderstanding. Correction I like the McIntosh hybrid power drive system. I keep thinking reviewers should swap out the Trinov or McIntosh processor for the AV10 with a tri-amp McIntosh line array speaker and the MC2.1KW 1-Channel Solid State Amplifier amplifiers with the AV10 set to large and LFE signal mapped back into the front Left and Right speaker.
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I assume they are both acoustically transparent, so no difference. OTOH the same applies to a lot of AVRs, which would also be 'as good' with 2 channel.
Ok. Then should I just go with the 7706 or 8805a which is considerably cheaper?
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It depends on what you want in terms of features and ultimately what performance you are looking for. 7706 and 8805A are not acoustically as transparent as AV-10, but might work for many people. Also, both of them have DAC filter that rolls off early. Some newer AVRs like C30 or AV-10 can switch between standard and early roll off. Very subtle difference but it is audible in right system/circumstances.
If you are one of those people that have a perfect room with low noise floor, and listens very carefully to each and every detail repeatedly and for hours, it might make you wonder if it is transparent enough.
If trying to get better value and top measurements (so that does not hunt you later), something like Denon 6800H might fit the bill. There are also pretty good higher end AVRs from Onkyo with Dirac included if you care about that point.
If you are one of those people that have a perfect room with low noise floor, and listens very carefully to each and every detail repeatedly and for hours, it might make you wonder if it is transparent enough.
If trying to get better value and top measurements (so that does not hunt you later), something like Denon 6800H might fit the bill. There are also pretty good higher end AVRs from Onkyo with Dirac included if you care about that point.
Go with the AVR-X6800H if you want the best performance to price ratio. The only +ve for the 7706 is XLR I/O, the -ve list is long, such as only 2 subouts, not capable to run Dirac Live, poor DAC IC etc., mediocre bench test results etc., some of those -ve won’t result in audibly poorer sq.
I wish it had xlr inputs and outputs. Also, I have a Parasound A21+ and Outlaw 2220 amp already.
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