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Marantz AV10 AV Processor Review

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From Paradigm's site

Sensitivity Room / Anechoic 94dB / 91dB



That's what I did is use a RCA cable for the center channel only. But before its level is set, it's clearly louder than any speaker in my setup.
May be the center speaker/channel has a ton of room gain, and your other speakers have lower sensitivity, even lower than their specified numbers. If using RCA can bring the trim back to above -12 dB then you are all set. RCA's voltage is half that of the XLR's so that's 6 dB right there.. Such a trick obviously works on the M28, but it wouldn't work on other amps such as Marantz's multichannel class AB amps because Marantz would drop the gain by 6 dB when you use XLR inputs, not sure about the Amp10 though.
 
May be the center speaker/channel has a ton of room gain, and your other speakers have lower sensitivity, even lower than their specified numbers. If using RCA can bring the trim back to above -12 dB then you are all set. RCA's voltage is half that of the XLR's so that's 6 dB right there.. Such a trick obviously works on the M28, but it wouldn't work on other amps such as Marantz's multichannel class AB amps because Marantz would drop the gain by 6 dB when you use XLR inputs, not sure about the Amp10 though.
My main speakers are the same Paradigm 100F’s with the almost identical sensitivity.

I only experienced this once I changed to the M28 amp using XLR cables from a Marantz 7055MM amp. I keep all things the same when switching to a new amp and that’s when I could clearly tell the center speaker was much louder.

im going to try the XLR’s once I get the AV10 to see if it’s the same as the 8805A. ‍♂️
 
My main speakers are the same Paradigm 100F’s with the almost identical sensitivity.

I only experienced this once I changed to the M28 amp using XLR cables from a Marantz 7055MM amp. I keep all things the same when switching to a new amp and that’s when I could clearly tell the center speaker was much louder.

im going to try the XLR’s once I get the AV10 to see if it’s the same as the 8805A. ‍♂️
That is expected, ss I mentioned, amps such as the MM7055 lowers the gain by 6 dB when you use the XLR inputs. So whether you use the AV8805's rca out xlr outputs with rhe MM7055, it will not make a difference. That means the amp will output the same voltage regardless.

The M28 specifies just one input sensitivity, that is 1.3 V, that indicates the gain is the same for both rca and xlr inputs. That means if you use xlr inputs, the amp will output 6 dB higher.

It is all to do with the power amp design, the AV10 will be the same in that sense.
 
Curious to all you that may understand these things more than I.

I'm picking up a AV10 and have for my amps two NAD M23's for my main speakers and a NAD M28 for my Atmos speakers.

Based upon the measurements would you use XLR cables or RCA cables to the amps?
XLR
 
If you have XLR´s you get a slight push on db´s. Sure, with RCA cables you will not get a night and day difference, but since you have the option, take the little extra.
 
If you have XLR´s you get a slight push on db´s. Sure, with RCA cables you will not get a night and day difference, but since you have the option, take the little extra.
Not always, sometimes rcas did a few dBs better, eg AVM90, there are other factors. All else being the same, yes XLR will ger a few dB better, at least on noise. Slightly better on distortions too if end to end balanced.
 
Not always, sometimes rcas did a few dBs better, eg AVM90, there are other factors. All else being the same, yes XLR will ger a few dB better, at least on noise. Slightly better on distortions too if end to end balanced.
Touch the metal of hot (sound playing) RCA move them around a little. If you have 16 cables into a densely packed processor back plate you are going to want to go to XLR. Especially if your height and bed layer amplifiers are in the alcove or media rack. Discussion over.
 
Touch the metal of hot (sound playing) RCA move them around a little. If you have 16 cables into a densely packed processor back plate you are going to want to go to XLR. Especially if your height and bed layer amplifiers are in the alcove or media rack. Discussion over.
It's not even a discussion afaic, just stating facts, when responding to the OP's question. I used xlrs regardless, as I prefer the xlr connections/cables period.
 
Touch the metal of hot (sound playing) RCA move them around a little. If you have 16 cables into a densely packed processor back plate you are going to want to go to XLR. Especially if your height and bed layer amplifiers are in the alcove or media rack. Discussion over.
I was pretty tolerant to heat in the past but decided to flip the coin as eventually luck tends to run out. After installing AC near the racks, I am seriously thinking if my AV-10 needs a blanket to stay warm. And even Brystons 4B SST are running barely warm to touch. Hope I will squeeze some extra years from the gear by keeping racks on ice :D
 
Not always, sometimes rcas did a few dBs better, eg AVM90, there are other factors. All else being the same, yes XLR will ger a few dB better, at least on noise. Slightly better on distortions too if end to end balanced.
If I had it, I'd use them as an excuse to get a "snake" of xlr's to have everything tidy. :D

I was pretty tolerant to heat in the past but decided to flip the coin as eventually luck tends to run out. After installing AC near the racks, I am seriously thinking if my AV-10 needs a blanket to stay warm. And even Brystons 4B SST are running barely warm to touch. Hope I will squeeze some extra years from the gear by keeping racks on ice :D
It's not liquid nitrogen, so no worries on the lows. :D
 
It's not liquid nitrogen, so no worries on the lows. :D
Lol, not overclocking them, that's for sure :D. Also keeping it at relatively socially responsible 25C/77F, but the optimised air-flow does its own thing,

But some might note that gear actually needs to be warm for audio excelence reasons. Like the old ritual - turn it all on and let it simmer at idle for 45 min, then do that special audiophile dance around them, and only then they are ready for optimal use :eek:
 
I guess that's a habit imported from tubes. For solid state, I think it makes no sense.

At any rate, you have good dissipation, so think of the saved money in winter heating.
 
I was pretty tolerant to heat in the past but decided to flip the coin as eventually luck tends to run out. After installing AC near the racks, I am seriously thinking if my AV-10 needs a blanket to stay warm. And even Brystons 4B SST are running barely warm to touch. Hope I will squeeze some extra years from the gear by keeping racks on ice :D
Be careful with sub-ambient cooling. Condensation is a killer for electronics.
 
Definitely true. Cooling to ambient temperature, just that AC airflow is directed to the rack area first. Humidity is also controlled and still finding the sweet spot for that as my first summer in this space.
 
Be careful with sub-ambient cooling. Condensation is a killer for electronics.
I mentioned in some other thread that I was absolutely surprised with how well a passivhaus sounds as is and without sound treatment. Part of that may be, I think, the fact that temperature and humidity are also monitored and controled, and that´s why they keep ambient temperature so stable.

I realized that part of the heating in winter actually comes from the kitchen, so I guess that with a multichannel setup, a home like that could even use the dissipated heat of the amps and other components.
 
Hello esteemed audio aficionados, has anyone compared the built quality between the Marantz AV10 and the Anthem AVM90?

If one is just using weight and size the Marantz would win at
37lbs
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Hello esteemed audio aficionados, has anyone compared the built quality between the Marantz AV10 and the Anthem AVM90?

If one is just using weight and size the Marantz would win at
37lbs
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Just got my AV10 a little over week ago coming from a 8805A. The AV10 used some seriously thick gauge steel for the case. I was very surprised it's NOTHING like any other product of theirs I've ever seen.
 
Just got my AV10 a little over week ago coming from a 8805A. The AV10 used some seriously thick gauge steel for the case. I was very surprised it's NOTHING like any other product of theirs I've ever seen.
What is the thickness of the steel case? Have you opened it up to see what is inside?
 
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