Making generalizations about music, another example of the 'Streetlight Effect' / "Drunkard's Fallacy"

[ahofer]

As those who saw me react to some generalizations about the classical tradition well know, this sort of thing really bothers me. 99-to-1, he is searching his own selective experience rather than examining his thesis by hitting the music library/streaming service.

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Streetlight effect - Wikipedia

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I mean really. Gershwin, Ravel, Stravinsky, the British Romantics, Basie, Ellington, Fletcher Henderson, Rodgers & Hammerstein, Barber, Hindemith, Copland. And that's without getting started on the New Viennese School.

 

[Curvature]

Just a guy talking. There's plenty of awesome traditions, musicians and composers in every era. Maybe hard to find if you are always using the same channels though.

 

[Rednaxela]

There has been only one peak: 1685-1750.

 

[Curvature]

Squarepusher - Music Is Rotted One Note

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[Peluvius]

It is perfectly valid to have a personal preference for music from a particular time. Suggesting that has some broader implication is nonsense.

 

[GDK]

Music actually peaked in 1971.

71 reasons why 1971 was the greatest year in rock music history

Asif Kapadia’s new Apple TV+ docuseries 1971 makes the claim that 1971 was the year music changed everything. Here are 71 reasons why this might be true

www.loudersound.com

 

[ahofer]

Music actually peaked in 1971.

71 reasons why 1971 was the greatest year in rock music history

Asif Kapadia’s new Apple TV+ docuseries 1971 makes the claim that 1971 was the year music changed everything. Here are 71 reasons why this might be true

www.loudersound.com

Yup, that was clearly it.

 

[Curvature]

It is perfectly valid to have a personal preference for music from a particular time. Suggesting that has some broader implication is nonsense.

He didn't position it as personal. He made a historical claim.

 

[Peluvius]

He didn't position it as personal. He made a historical claim.

I cut him some slack with his "in my mind", at least some qualification. Just seems like a dopey thing to say regardless, particularly with such specific time references.....

 

[Curvature]

I cut him some slack with his "in my mind", at least some qualification. Just seems like a dopey thing to say regardless, particularly with such specific time references.....

Seems to say more about the guy himself than about music, I'll grant that.

 

[Axo1989]

Music actually peaked in 1971.

71 reasons why 1971 was the greatest year in rock music history

Asif Kapadia’s new Apple TV+ docuseries 1971 makes the claim that 1971 was the year music changed everything. Here are 71 reasons why this might be true

www.loudersound.com

Haha, all that and they hadn't even discovered bass yet.

 

[gene_stl]

Yup, that was clearly it.

Rock Music actually peaked about 1967 and ended in 1970.
The only thing mentioned in that article that is/was any good is the Who. All the rest I can easily live without.
for example the last good Stones album was "Beggars Bangquet" or maybe Satanic Majesties ripoff of the Beatles. I remember a contemporaneous cartoon showing some rock and rollers listening to Sticky Fingers and agreeing that "the stones have done it again man!" in the first frame and then gradually drifting away from the record player. Perfect!
Okay Maaybe ELP and maybe Marvin Gaye and Aqualung.

 

[AdamG]

Reminds me of this.

 

[charleski]

Perfect Sound Whatever
in which James Acaster proves that 2016 was "the greatest year for music of all time".
...

 

[gene_stl]

Reminds me of this.

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[Axo1989]

Reminds me of this.

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They do say "the quickest way to get a right answer on the internet is to post a wrong answer on the internet."

Of course you'll get some more wrong answers as well.