Luxsin X9 Smart Stereo DAC & Preamp

[TynanW]

By the way, I often use a black-and-white frequency response VU meter. But I really like the idea of the old-school color scheme as well — green, yellow, red. Ideally, of course, it would be great to introduce many VU meters. Both mono and colored, and analog ones, which I suggested above, for example.

Yeah, black-and-white can look nice.

 

[Sokel]

Yeah, black-and-white can look nice.

Yep, that absolutely does it, as premium as it gets.

 

[Roman Blagov]

Yeah, black-and-white can look nice.

Yes. That type. Luxsin has a built-in one like that — but it has one drawback: the left and right channels are placed on opposite sides, which is not very convenient. We could even keep the current ones and move the left channel to the right, next to the right channel. It will be better, I'm sure.

 

[TynanW]

I think Luxsin should hire you! ))).

Thanks, I will need a gold helicopter and a lifetime's supply of Pinot Noir.

Seriously though, from a programming perspective, I don't think the VU meter display module is supposed to be interactive (with buttons, etc.).

Sure, but there's nothing to prevent it from having on screen buttons, the code is there, the screen is a touchscreen, it would make these multiple meters a lot more organised, rather than scrolling through them, you had one design, with 3 or 4 colour variations 'built' in, just click/cycle through them with a button.

I am not the world's greatest coder (I am much better at drinking wine), but even for me in C#, C++ or Python, setting this screen up, with the touch buttons, would be an afternoon's work, there's nothing really 'clever' or complex involved, the ability to switch colours through a button is pretty trivial.

 

[TynanW]

Great work!
It may be a good idea to have a look at the [trending] this year's colors as we are short of trained to like what's around us.

Agreed, but you have to be careful ! There is a lot of design at the cheap end of tech that is currently enthralled to that addressable LED look, basically LEDs cycling through every colour imaginable, when something becomes so commonplace, so cheap and available, two things happen, it starts to look cheap and it very quickly dates itself . . . so while I like the current spectrum analyser on the X9, with the rainbow colours it's not going to become a design classic like SONY or Braun, it will look a little cheap and dated fairly quickly.

keeping down to two colors only (including the device's colors too) with some corresponding shades seems to give a more premium feeling too.

Agreed 100% !

 

[dimon0869]

True, but hey, we can dream : ) Also it sounds like Luxsin wants customer feedback . . . ?


Horizontal Level Meter:

Below the meter are three touchscreen buttons.

From the left to the right:

RMS / PEAK this toggles between these two signal level measurement modes.

STUDIO this selects the colour mode, it cycles through 3 (or more) colour ways, in my example we have:
’STUDIO’ (standard studio safe / warning / over colours + relevant dBFS splits)
‘LUX’ (Luxsin cyan used throughout the interface)
’SUN’ (Orange/Red !)

HOLD (set to 500ms in the example) this cycles through different hold times:
500ms > 1s > 2s > 5s > INF > OFF
(off switches peak hold off).

(please watch in HD, Youtube is not kind to fine details !)

This is just fantastic and the embodiment of all desires! The only wish is to make the font of the inscriptions above the indicator larger. But I can't even believe that the developers will make such an indicator for us, and this makes me sad...

 

[TynanW]

Yep, that absolutely does it, as premium as it gets.

Yes. That type.

Same black-and-white treatment for the Level Meter.
Starts with the standard studio colours.
Then MONO
Then SLATE
I've stuck 1dB indicators / divisions on different sections, not sure they're needed.

 

[TynanW]

The only wish is to make the font of the inscriptions above the indicator larger.

Like this . . . ?

 

[Roman Blagov]

Thanks, I will need a gold helicopter and a lifetime's supply of Pinot Noir.

Tell me, would a golden parachute and a Cabernet Sauvignon not suit you? LOL ))

 

[dimon0869]

Same black-and-white treatment for the Level Meter.
Starts with the standard studio colours.
Then MONO
Then SLATE
I've stuck 1dB indicators / divisions on different sections, not sure they're needed.

It seems more preferable to me with the scale markings, and I asked to increase the font for the sampling frequency and other information above the indicator, and leave the markings between the columns at the size they were in the first version initially.

 

[dimon0869]

Like this . . . ?

Although maybe it would be better if it were bigger, and also add some markings, and on top of that the information on the sampling and outputs would be increased in size by about two times.

 

[TynanW]

Tell me, would a golden parachute and a Cabernet Sauvignon not suit you? LOL ))

As long as I get the wine before the parachute.

 

[TynanW]

It seems more preferable to me with the scale markings, and I asked to increase the font for the sampling frequency and other information above the indicator, and leave the markings between the columns at the size they were in the first version initially.

Bear in mind . . . none of this has been designed !! Lol : )
All these are tests to see if certain elements can be arranged comfortably with 960 x 400 pixels.
As I've said elsewhere if I were to design it properly I would spend a few days on just one design, I would make sure fonts sizes and elements work at size, I would address kerning issues, I usually even do the font's antialiasing by hand (that is to say pixel by pixel) . . . . none of this has been done, just some stuff thrown together see if it looks nice, so all criticism is valid, things need to be moved, resized, aligned, colours need addressing . . . . etc etc.

I'd love to design a meter, but there's no real point in me doing an actual design as Luxsin have their own designers . . . these are just ideas.


And by the way, just checked, those elements at the top are roughly the same size at some of the Luxsin screens (see example) . . . but I agree, sizes need to be adjusted, looks like it could do with being bigger.

 

[Roman Blagov]

Bear in mind . . . none of this has been designed !! Lol : )
All these are tests to see if certain elements can be arranged comfortably with 960 x 400 pixels.
As I've said elsewhere if I were to design it properly I would spend a few days on just one design, I would make sure fonts sizes and elements work at size, I would address kerning issues, I usually even do the font's antialiasing by hand (that is to say pixel by pixel) . . . . none of this has been done, just some stuff thrown together see if it looks nice, so all criticism is valid, things need to be moved, resized, aligned, colours need addressing . . . . etc etc.

I'd love to design a meter, but there's no real point in me doing an actual design as Luxsin have their own designers . . . these are just ideas.


And by the way, just checked, those elements at the top are roughly the same size at some of the Luxsin screens (see example) . . . but I agree, sizes need to be adjusted, looks like it could do with being bigger.

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It's clear that no one expects millimeter-perfect design from you. I'm sure Luxsin has excellent designers (as the current VU-meters show). From us, I think the concept is what's important—what the community wants.

 

[dimon0869]

Bear in mind . . . none of this has been designed !! Lol : )
All these are tests to see if certain elements can be arranged comfortably with 960 x 400 pixels.
As I've said elsewhere if I were to design it properly I would spend a few days on just one design, I would make sure fonts sizes and elements work at size, I would address kerning issues, I usually even do the font's antialiasing by hand (that is to say pixel by pixel) . . . . none of this has been done, just some stuff thrown together see if it looks nice, so all criticism is valid, things need to be moved, resized, aligned, colours need addressing . . . . etc etc.

I'd love to design a meter, but there's no real point in me doing an actual design as Luxsin have their own designers . . . these are just ideas.


And by the way, just checked, those elements at the top are roughly the same size at some of the Luxsin screens (see example) . . . but I agree, sizes need to be adjusted, looks like it could do with being bigger.

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Yes, now I understand you and you made such a cool screen, which I only dreamed of! Now if only engineers would see it and support it!

 

[da Choge]

lifetime's supply of Pinot Noir.

I LIKE that! Excellent Pinot Noir is hard to beat. People are always dissing it in favor of Cabernet Sauvignon, but a great Burgundy-type wine can be at least as good, if not better, than a Bordeaux-type any day, IMO. But, sorry, TOTALLY OT.

 

[Roman Blagov]

I LIKE that! Excellent Pinot Noir is hard to beat. People are always dissing it in favor of Cabernet Sauvignon, but a great Burgundy-type wine can be at least as good, if not better, than a Bordeaux-type any day, IMO. But, sorry, TOTALLY OT.

So no one actually scolded Pinot Noir – I merely suggested different terms ) Pinot Noir is an excellent wine.

 

[TynanW]

So no one actually scolded Pinot Noir – I merely suggested different terms ) Pinot Noir is an excellent wine.

To be honest, I will accept drain cleaner, as long as it's >12° proof.

 

[Luxsin]

Same black-and-white treatment for the Level Meter.
Starts with the standard studio colours.
Then MONO
Then SLATE
I've stuck 1dB indicators / divisions on different sections, not sure they're needed.

Really nice looking meters! Adding user-switchable icon for VU meter is something we never done before, I will talk to our software guys next Monday to check the possibility, just don't want to disturb their well-deserved rest time.

BTW, I like drinking too, bit more on Chinese white wine.

 

[dimon0869]

Really nice looking meters! Adding user-switchable icon for VU meter is something we never done before, I will talk to our software guys next Monday to check the possibility, just don't want to disturb their well-deserved rest time.

BTW, I like drinking too, bit more on Chinese white wine.

It would be great if you did this for our device!
It is better to leave the markings between the channel lines in the first and second variants, but in the third it is even better without them (exactly as in your video of the third color variant). And please double the font size of the information above the indicator - sampling frequency, output, etc.
And why does the indicator end at 0 decibels, why not, for example, +3 dB?