LP Sound vs Digital

[Don Hills]

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You can place mouse pointer in the dB scale and either RT click or scroll for zooming in or out. This is not the full control I had in mind and it is rather clunky. But I had forgotten you can do this.

This is on the actual track display, not the "Plot Spectrum" display?

 

[TBone]

... is 2.1.0 the very latest version? That's the version I have available for dl.

 

[amirm]

That is what I think I downloaded.

 

[Blumlein 88]

Yes, I just downloaded Audacity 2.1.2 to replace 2.05. It does indeed have the scroll bar on the plot spectrum view. A few other changes and additions too. It still won't let you scroll below -145 db which is a slight disappointment.

If you are downloading from Sourceforge I think it has 2.1 which isn't the latest. Also in case you don't know, many items from Sourceforge are no longer reliably safe as they have malware or adware installers embedded. Thanks to the new owners of Sourceforge and the scum they are.

http://www.audacityteam.org/ This should be a safe place to get it which downloads from Fosshub.

 

[amirm]

Thanks for the heads up on sourcforge. I remember thinking about that and then thought, "it is soundforge so it is safe."

 

[TBone]

Adobe was brutal for hiding this kinda crap, had to find the "hidden" flag to disable. I don't remember prior issues w/soundforge dls, but ....

 

[Sal1950]

Yes, I just downloaded Audacity 2.1.2 to replace 2.05. It does indeed have the scroll bar on the plot spectrum view. A few other changes and additions too. It still won't let you scroll below -145 db which is a slight disappointment.

If you are downloading from Sourceforge I think it has 2.1 which isn't the latest. Also in case you don't know, many items from Sourceforge are no longer reliably safe as they have malware or adware installers embedded. Thanks to the new owners of Sourceforge and the scum they are.

http://www.audacityteam.org/ This should be a safe place to get it which downloads from Fosshub.

I've been out of the loop for too long, I didn't realize Sourceforge was up to such mischief. Embedding anything into GPL license software is despicable.

 

[Blumlein 88]

What happened with sourceforge is it was sold to a private company. I believe the same people who purchased slashdot, and tried to ruin it. So they started altering programs that had remained unchanged for 1 year or longer. Why they thought they could do this I don't know. If the developer has made regular updates and been active with changes they leave it alone. So Audacity is probably safe. Many small utility programs that have no reason to change often however will have some of the various shopping malware added by sourceforge's parent company. They also started adding where you get such items on other downloads unless you opt out of it. They have lost their rear ends by paying too much and thinking they could monetize sourceforge and slashdot. How they could think that would go over well with users of those I don't know. So in desperation they are doing anything to get back a little money.

So once I could tell non-techy friends download from sourceforge it is safe. Now it is just the reverse, don't download from sourceforge. Sourceforge claims to have stopped such practices as of last month. People who ruin such good community resources via greed and distribution of what everyone knows is malware do not deserve our patronage in my opinion.

You can read about it on the wikipedia page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SourceForge

 

[TBone]

thx 88 ... downloaded 2.1.2 without issue, + Gnumeric.

 

[Blumlein 88]

thx 88 ... downloaded 2.1.2 without issue, + Gnumeric.

You are welcome. The real thanks is to Don for letting us know there is a 2.1.2 version with the new feature.

 

[Don Hills]

You are welcome. The real thanks is to Don for letting us know there is a 2.1.2 version with the new feature.

2.1.1 had it too. This service brought to you by the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation. Share and enjoy.

2.1.2 has one new feature I find useful:
I make considerable use of the ability to change the values used to generate the "Spectrogram" display. (Click on the title bar of the track, select "Spectrogram" from the drop-down menu.)
Before 2.1.2, the values were set in "Preferences" and were global. As of 2.1.2, the settings are now adjustable per-track, with a new option on the above menu.

 

[TBone]

thx Don ... very helpful ...

 

[TBone]

... Gnumeric is a nice tool. Importing, moving, formatting data was seamless. Charting features will require some additional research/invested time.

Interesting, I tested it by manipulating big chunks of data, w/more difficult tasks, it crashed w/not responding message. However, W10 doesn't crash (at least so far) ... it stallszzzzz, even black-screens ... but a little patience ... it returns like nothing happened.

 

[Blumlein 88]

I have found Gnumeric to be better with large chunks of data. With some tasks it seems sluggish vs other spreadsheets. With statistical and other analysis on large chunks of data it seems faster. But machine and OS differences cloud all that. I use it on Win8 and Linux.

I find different things I favor in all the different spreadsheets. So no silver bullet best for me so far.

However, almost any machine I use I put Gnumeric and Abiword on it if someone does not have office software. Neither has a large footprint and is good for the most common uses that crop up.

 

[fas42]

Regarding Audacity ... a very handy place to visit, to see what the developers are currently thinking about, is https://sourceforge.net/p/audacity/mailman/audacity-devel/.

 

[TBone]

I find different things I favor in all the different spreadsheets. So no silver bullet best for me so far.

an excel story ...

one company in which I was hired to be responsible for their entire computer chain, software & hardware, had 25 employees/consultants, all w/various ranges of "advanced" spreadsheet experience. Initially, I supplied the education, templates and guidelines in which they should all adhere, but that didn't happen.

Although my template was designed to be standardized, the consultants took great liberty designing their "own" templates/requirements. We were so 24/7 busy, dealing with a big transition, so, the company stakeholders relented, claiming they thought each consultant idea's "productive" and were content they included correct data.

Well, without advising anyone, next weekend, alone at the office, the governance in me built & implemented a strict excel/template system in which strict guidelines were forced on everyone, even the stakeholders, designed so that every spreadsheet leaving the shop, all it's charts and specifics, would adhere to my brand of company normalization. I designed the the look, size, fonts, placements, colors, and scripts, even added a reconciliation process for accuracy; all they did was insert specific numbers.

Well, talk about a revolution, the following Monday the consultants, as a bunch, stormed into the presidents office with their forks and daggers held high, as if I had wrongly taken away some creative right of passage which discriminated against their idea's & productivity. When I arrived, the hunt was in full progress, so I ignored the meeting + stakeholders request to explain my "arrogant" actions. locking myself in my office. The company owner soon arrived and once everyone dispersed, we had a quick 2 minute discussion, and that was that!!! Within hours/days, even tho many senior consultants hated my arrogant ass (well, at least until they required my assistance) ... productivity increased by leaps & bounds.

That administrative power, among other reasons, was why I luv'd Excel.

(Amir, sorry for littering this thread with such non-subject matters)

 

[TBone]

unfortunately I reverted back to 2.1.0 b/c the latest version had every screenshot return a blank/black image. I tried everything, very frustrating. Probably a W10 type bug, although I couldn't find any documentation.

Thankfully; 2.1.0 still works fine.

 

[Blumlein 88]

I have found the Audacity latest version saves 24 bit wav files as aiff instead. On win 8. Pretty big bug.

 

[TBone]

trying to fix these W10 issues is bloody wasteful, esp with older orig.W7 machines. Frustrating bottleneck behind ... dl op.office & using Gnumeric, between that bunch ...

 

[TBone]

... had to add -10/6 dB to get the digital media to line up w/the rips. The "Hi-Rez" version (2014), no surprise, easily the most clipped/loudest of the bunch; no amount of tricky upsampling can salvage that damage.

The double-blue line follows 2 LP rips; 1st clipped over a tiny bolder, 2nd played clean. Cleaning cycles/regiment can be aggressive, hence the trace. The 2nd rip (~20 min post 1st) = accurate LP numbers, & esp. nice to see the tone-arm region sing just a little less actively (measured in decimals).

Any thoughts on this template?