Lots and lots of IO needed.

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Well, ok we have different views on what should be a good preamp performance. Apart of preamps quality, with ada8200 you will have annoying channel bleeding and random clock drifting. If that’s also ok for you then go for it

 

[1231rq32r1qw32r]

Well, ok we have different views on what should be a good preamp performance. Apart of preamps quality, with ada8200 you will have annoying channel bleeding and random clock drifting. If that’s also ok for you then go for it

Is clock drift ever audible? And all those measurements shown in your link are as good as inaudible. If you think i have a recording room with a noise floor below -90dB, you’re about to be shocked.

 

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Is clock drift ever audible? And all those measurements shown in your link are as good as inaudible. If you think i have a recording room with a noise floor below -90dB, you’re about to be shocked.

I'm telling you in every possible way: ADA8200 is a disappointing gear.
- Preamps: their sound reminds me of a 90's Soundblaster
- Clock drifting: click - pops with a random "timestretch" effect
- Channel bleeding: for example when you use ch4 you will have part of the signal entering on ch3 and ch5

That said, if you're still convinced this gear is the right choice for you then good luck

 

[1231rq32r1qw32r]

I'm telling you in every possible way: ADA8200 is a disappointing gear.
- Preamps: their sound reminds me of a 90's Soundblaster
- Clock drifting: click - pops with a random "timestretch" effect
- Channel bleeding: for example when you use ch4 you will have part of the signal entering on ch3 and ch5

That said, if you're still convinced this gear is the right choice for you then good luck

I don’t see evidence of this in your measurements. There’s nothing audibly wrong with them. Do you own an ADA8200?

Do you really think the clock in a piece of modern gear is so bad that it “time stretches”?

Come on man. I’ll make some recordings when I get one, let me know if you can ABX it

 

[sarumbear]

Hello everyone! This topic may not be suited to ASR, but I respect the feedback from people here more than that of other forums.

To cut to the chase, I run a small recoding studio. I hate patchbays. I would like all my gear connected at once and I would manage the IO and routing via software DAW.

Does anyone have recommendations for an audio interface with a lot of IO? I’d prefer a modular setup - where I could add addition IO as needed. 48IO would likely do but I’m interested in options.

I’m working exclusively on MacOS but I don’t think that makes any difference nowadays

I suggest a Dante enabled product. You can use them as an audio interface via Dante virtual soundcard on PC or Mac. There are many on their huge database but I have first hand experience with the following.

Allen & Heath - AHM-64 | Dante

AHM-64 is a powerful 64×64 Audio Matrix Processor supported by a comprehensive ecosystem of scalable I/O, control and Dante solutions. Designed to excel in corporate, retail, hospitality and education environments, AHM-64 allows integrators to quickly create systems that build from a single...

www.audinate.com

 

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I don’t see evidence of this in your measurements. There’s nothing audibly wrong with them. Do you own an ADA8200?

Do you really think the clock in a piece of modern gear is so bad that it “time stretches”?

Come on man. I’ll make some recordings when I get one, let me know if you can ABX it

Hahaha! Of course I've had one, do you think I'm making it up? Obviously I got rid of it and now use an excellent Audient 880 which is much better. No, I'm not a sales rep and I don't really care what you buy, but let me understand: why do you open a thread looking for advice but then you don't care about other people's opinions?
Just an attention-seeking behavior?

 

[1231rq32r1qw32r]

I suggest a Dante enabled product. You can use them as an audio interface via Dante virtual soundcard on PC or Mac. There are many on their database but I have first hand experience with the following.

Allen & Heath - AHM-64 | Dante

AHM-64 is a powerful 64×64 Audio Matrix Processor supported by a comprehensive ecosystem of scalable I/O, control and Dante solutions. Designed to excel in corporate, retail, hospitality and education environments, AHM-64 allows integrators to quickly create systems that build from a single...

www.audinate.com

Thank you - the database link is really useful. I have a MOTU 24AI and 2x Ada8200 on their way to me now. If those don’t work out I’ll consider Dante

 

[1231rq32r1qw32r]

Hahaha! Of course I've had one, do you think I'm making it up? Obviously I got rid of it and now use an excellent Audient 880 which is much better. No, I'm not a sales rep and I don't really care what you buy, but let me understand: why do you open a thread looking for advice but then you don't care about other people's opinions?
Just an attention-seeking behavior?

To put it politely, I don’t think you know what you’re talking about. Your posts are full of hyperbole and hearsay.

There’s no need to continue this conversation. I’ll post a recording and you can post your ABX results. There’s no need to discuss what we can prove.

 

[sarumbear]

Thank you - the database link is really useful. I have a MOTU 24AI and 2x Ada8200 on their way to me now. If those don’t work out I’ll consider Dante

Behringer products are known to have sub-bar audio quality. If you are going to use them on recording, be sure that you are happy with their audio quality. There are some great units in their portfolio but mostly they suck in audio quality.

 

[1231rq32r1qw32r]

Behringer products are known to have sub-bar audio quality. If you are going to use them on recording, be sure that you are happy with their audio quality. There are some great units in their portfolio but mostly they suck in audio quality.

I guess that depends on what your “bar” is. I will be ASTONISHED if the ADA8200 is not transparent in real world operation.

Again, I’ll post a recording and we can compare it to the MOTU as well as the original file. Should be interesting none the less - give me a week

 

[recycle]

To put it politely, I don’t think you know what you’re talking about. Your posts are full of hyperbole and hearsay.

There’s no need to continue this conversation. I’ll post a recording and you can post your ABX results. There’s no need to discuss what we can prove.

bad vibes bro, I'll put you in ignore for a while, hoping you heal from this grudge

 

[sarumbear]

I guess that depends on what your “bar” is. I will be ASTONISHED if the ADA8200 is not transparent in real world operation.

You are relatively new at ASR but if you read a few reviews you will have an idea of our bar.

Again, I’ll post a recording and we can compare it to the MOTU as well as the original file. Should be interesting none the less - give me a week

It’s not my job to decide. I am only flagging out a possible issue you may have. Decision is yours.

 

[1231rq32r1qw32r]

bad vibes bro, I'll put you in ignore for a while, hoping you heal from this grudge

Someone isn’t confident in their ability to ABX

 

[1231rq32r1qw32r]

You are relatively new at ASR but if you read a few reviews you will have an idea of our bar.


It’s not my job to decide. I am only flagging out a possible issue you may have. Decision is yours.

No, I understand what you’re saying, and I’m not expecting stellar performance from it. I do however think that its performance will be beyond what I actually need - ie, it’ll be audibly transparent for recording and playback. 16bit noise floor is way beyond what I can reasonably record or playback (granted, multitracking is a multiplier)

If it’s not decent I’ll send it back. I’m not being disrespectful when I say I’m interested to see if anyone can ABX it against the MOTU or original file - that’s the acid test at the end of the day. There’s an old thread on GearSpace where the golden ears couldn’t ABX it against a £3000 Lynx unit. https://gearspace.com/board/gear-sh...5267-lynx-aurora-16-vs-behringer-ada8000.html

I certainly don’t believe the previous poster’s assertion that clock drift is so bad that it’s audible. I’ve no interest in placebo.

All the gear will arrive early next week, I’d be delighted if you’d help with an ABX. I don’t pretend to have great ears, so the more the merrier!

 

[1231rq32r1qw32r]

No, I understand what you’re saying, and I’m not expecting stellar performance from it. I do however think that its performance will be beyond what I actually need - ie, it’ll be audibly transparent for recording and playback. 16bit noise floor is way beyond what I can reasonably record or playback (granted, multitracking is a multiplier)

If it’s not decent I’ll send it back. I’m not being disrespectful when I say I’m interested to see if anyone can ABX it against the MOTU or original file - that’s the acid test at the end of the day. There’s an old thread on GearSpace where the golden ears couldn’t ABX it against a £3000 Lynx unit. https://gearspace.com/board/gear-sh...5267-lynx-aurora-16-vs-behringer-ada8000.html

I certainly don’t believe the previous poster’s assertion that clock drift is so bad that it’s audible. I’ve no interest in placebo.

All the gear will arrive early next week, I’d be delighted if you’d help with an ABX. I don’t pretend to have great ears, so the more the merrier!

I should clarify- when I say I think it’ll be audibly transparent, I mean I suspect it will be.

 

[weesch]

hi
if you want a good interface with many IO the
presonus quantum 2626 seams to be to lowest latency audio hardware nowadays (thunderblot 3)
with MVE disc and a good cpu as i9 and 32 go of ram with windows 11 midi 2.0.
it could a great configuration for music composer.
i have not tested this configuration because i use and old protools hd 10 192 io with yamaha 01v96 and creamware scope 5.1 for eq and dsp.
and my sound is huge !

https://www.reverbnation.com/weesch/song/33293276-misil-75-bpm

 

[weesch]

I should clarify- when I say I think it’ll be audibly transparent, I mean I suspect it will be.

Hi
we don't need Lynx DAD Merging horus or anubis or avid MTRX / Carbon for make music !
Behringer make good hardware not as good as Aurora lynx but it's not the same price ! (aurora is good but colored converter)
Motu seems to be good but i suspect that presonus quantum 2626 is actually the best hardware for music .
i use yamaha 01v96 AD/DA with digidesign protools hd 10 192 io and soniccore scope 5.1 dsp and sometimes cubase 5 or samplitude or mutools.
samplitude have a really good sound with creamware asio scope 5.1 and mutools work great with small configuration ! the sound of mutools is neutral as windows do.
this songs was made with the first yamaha 01v , cubase 5 and creamware scope 5.1 .
the accoustic guitar is great !

https://www.reverbnation.com/weesch/song/33565690-alone-is-true-freedom

 

[weesch]

USB 2 class compliant connection is limited to 42 channels at lower sample rates.

Antelope has a bad rep on their driver software. They made changes and claim it is not a problem. In my experience that has been true the last 3 years. They have a bad rep on that however.

hi
i don't trust usb 2 for low latency (64 samples asio buffer) because i use plugins on insert for record my guitar bass voices.
maybe i'am wrong but i think that only USB 3 / thunderbolt / PCIE x4 x8 can support plugins at 64 samples asio buffer.
protools hd PCI-X 64 bit 133 mhz can make working wrapped VST plugins with sugarbytes trans VST at 64 samples easily with an old lga 775 quadcore computer.
demo samplitude asio scope + protools hd (plugins guitar rig 5 rtas , addictive drum , korg m1 , bass , nexus2 rtas, native keys, accoustic guitar , p5wdg2 /8 go /q6600)

https://www.reverbnation.com/weesch/song/33565696-nalemi

 

[weesch]

There’s a lot of terminology in this topic that I’m not fully familiar with.

AVB, MADI, DANTE etc. Can anyone help with this or point to a resource?

My old system was essentially plug and play. Need another 24 channels? Buy another MOTU 24 IO and plug it in.

hi
AVB is an ethernet communication between audio interface and mixer ,i think,maybe with an asio driver (don't work as fast for having low latency)
MADI is just like adat or aes ebu it's optical tranmission but in only one fiber you can pass 64 channems (need high buffer asio sizes not good for latency)
DANTE is an ethernet asio protocol but you need the DANTE accelerator card to make running it at low latency because the ethernet RJ45 virtual ASIO dante is enough powerfull for multitracks low latency (64 asio buffer).
MOTU seems to be good ( only in usb 3 / PCIExpress 4x or 8x /thunderbolt 3) with a big computer 8 , 12 cores MVE disc and 16 or 32 go ram.

 

[weesch]

Hello everyone! This topic may not be suited to ASR, but I respect the feedback from people here more than that of other forums.

To cut to the chase, I run a small recoding studio. I hate patchbays. I would like all my gear connected at once and I would manage the IO and routing via software DAW.

Does anyone have recommendations for an audio interface with a lot of IO? I’d prefer a modular setup - where I could add addition IO as needed. 48IO would likely do but I’m interested in options.

I’m working exclusively on MacOS but I don’t think that makes any difference nowadays

hi
i recommend the presonus quantum 2626
if you have 2 thunderbolt 3 port in your computer you can make working 2 interface 26 +26 tracks ! 52 tracks.

Is it possible to link multiple 2626 units together to have 16 (or 24) analog mic inputs? - Questions & Answers | PreSonus

I have an HP envy laptop with thunderbolt usb c. I am hoping to use two (or 3) 2626 units ... than one question. Thank you everyone for the input.

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