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Lossless Listening Arrives on Spotify Premium

That was interesting. It's starting to roll out. There's no word on price increases. Oh, if that's the case, that's good news. :)

Lossless is rolling out gradually to more than 50 markets through October. Premium subscribers in Australia, Austria, Czechia, Denmark, Germany, Japan, New Zealand, the Netherlands, Portugal, Sweden, the US, and the UK have already started to get access.

Already started to get access. Let's see:

You'll need to enable Lossless manually on each device. You'll know Lossless is on because the Lossless indicator will appear in the Now Playing view or bar, and via the Connect Picker.

I live in Sweden and I haven't had access to lossless yet. It looks like it usually does for me:
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This is what it should look like after the upgrade:
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I'll check again in a few days. If it starts rolling out now, it might take a while before it arrives.:)

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Lossless Listening Arrives on Spotify Premium With a Richer, More Detailed Listening Experience — Spotify

Lossless on Spotify Premium is here. Lossless audio has been one of the most anticipated features on Spotify and now, finally, it’s started rolling out to Premium listeners in select markets. Premium subscribers will receive a notification in Spotify once Lossless becomes available to them...
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Lossless is available on mobile, desktop, and tablet, as well as on many devices that support Spotify Connect, including Sony, Bose, Samsung, Sennheiser, and more. Support for additional devices, including those from Sonos and Amazon, arrives next month.
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Do you have to pay extra for it or is it included in the regular subscription?
 
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FrantzM said:
Premium people in select markets, (mentioned in their announcement) should get it ..
it doesn't show on my devices yet ..
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They announced that lossless will be rolled out just a few hours ago so give it some time. A few days, if you live in a country where it will be rolled out immediately, is reasonable to think that it could take. If they have been dragging it out for so many years, a few days or weeks here or there will not matter much.:)

HOWEVER, I urge everyone when they get Spotify Lossless to let the rest of us know. Out of curiosity, it's fun to see which country /subscribers gets it first.:)
 
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How funny. I just cancelled Tidal and Amazon recently when i just decided for sure i cannot hear the difference between the best of tidal/Amazon/Spotify. I have a only test with my Buckeye NCx500 amp and either LS50 Metas, LRS+, LSiM703 or Aurum Cantus V7Fs, many headphones, 2 WiiM Ultras and two different AB+AB and AB+ABCD switchers I'm having somebody else use and level match and i just CAN'T tell the damn difference when I'm trying my ass off to listen.

I've been very careful protecting my hearing over the years. While very young someone pointed out to me the world had only been loud for less than 1% of our existence so i decided to never go to concerts or stay in loud bars or clubs. I've only worked 1 blue collar job where i was mercilessly teased for always protecting my ears and it was chemical blending anyway so not exactly loud.

I don't know what else to say. I still have a lot to learn about listening I'm sure but maybe genetically i don't have good ears. I pickup languages quickly for whatever that's worth and whether Korean or Spanish or Japanese or whatever, i have been told i sound almost native when i hardly know shit. So i think that takes some nuanced listening. I'm really at a loss. Pun intended. But wait, this is all pointless now, right?
 
I have Sonos, and I’ll report if and when it arrives. My Sonos Port handles FLAC with no problem.

This is being discussed on Reddit /r/sonos. There are a lot of Spotify haters.
 
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ScienceMajorSellout said:
How funny. I just cancelled Tidal and Amazon recently when i just decided for sure i cannot hear the difference between the best of tidal/Amazon/Spotify. I have a only test with my Buckeye NCx500 amp and either LS50 Metas, LRS+, LSiM703 or Aurum Cantus V7Fs, many headphones, 2 WiiM Ultras and two different AB+AB and AB+ABCD switchers I'm having somebody else use and level match and i just CAN'T tell the damn difference when I'm trying my ass off to listen.

I've been very careful protecting my hearing over the years. While very young someone pointed out to me the world had only been loud for less than 1% of our existence so i decided to never go to concerts or stay in loud bars or clubs. I've only worked 1 blue collar job where i was mercilessly teased for always protecting my ears and it was chemical blending anyway so not exactly loud.

I don't know what else to say. I still have a lot to learn about listening I'm sure but maybe genetically i don't have good ears. I pickup languages quickly for whatever that's worth and whether Korean or Spanish or Japanese or whatever, i have been told i sound almost native when i hardly know shit. So i think that takes some nuanced listening. I'm really at a loss. Pun intended. But wait, this is all pointless now, right?
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Hello and welcome to ASR.:)

....and i just CAN'T tell the damn difference when I'm trying my ass off to listen.
Sounds reasonable. But if Spotify doesn't increase the premium cost for the lossless feature, it certainly won't hurt anyway. And most people already have enough bandwidth and will have more than enough to use Spotify Lossless.

Blind test instead, for example by letting someone else move/angle your speakers in different ways. Sooner or later you'll get it 100% right. Maybe you'll even find a speaker placement that you like more than the one you have now. :)
Blind test: With and without mattresses on the side walls to reduce the reflections. With and without thick carpet in front of the speakers. ....and so on.
Only your imagination sets limits to what you can test in the listening room. Plus what your friend, someone else, is willing and interested in helping with of course.:)
 
I don't know what else to say. I still have a lot to learn about listening I'm sure but maybe genetically i don't have good ears... I'm really at a loss. Pun intended. But wait, this is all pointless now, right?
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Lossy compression gets a bad reputation but it can be very good (or very bad at lower bitrates where more data is thrown away). And it depends on the program material because some program material is easier to compress. There is a myth that you need a high-end system to hear the defects/differences but that's generally not true, although headphones may help when you're trying to hear a difference.

You may have to know what to listen for and you can (probably) train yourself to hear the differences (sometimes). Amir is a trained listener and I'm sure he can hear stuff that I can't. I have always been a "picky listener" but I have avoided trying to train myself because I grew-up with vinyl and the clicks and pops always annoyed me... The last thing I want is to start noticing defects that I'm not hearing now! And, since I don't produce music or review equipment I don't need to train my ears and I can just enjoy the music.

A lot of people look at and compare the spectrum of an MP3 with the lossy original, and there is usually a loss of the highest frequencies. But, that's usually not heard anyway because the highest frequencies are weak harmonics that are usually masked (drowned out) by not-as-high frequencies. Throwing-away quieter masked-sounds is main "trick' that makes lossy compression work. If you hear a compression artifact with a high-quality lossy format it's usually something called "pre-echo".

I have high-bitrate MP3s on an antique iPod that's docked to my car stereo, and every time I've thought I was hearing a compression artifact it's turned-out that the CD has the same "defect".
 
Maybe I can find a reason to shorten my list of music apps now. I've become a bit of an app junky, started with Spotify and then tried Tidal for higher res and their Daily Discovery, while keeping Spotify for convenience. Then Tidal was having issues streaming to my Denon-Marantz equipment so I got Qobuz, and it seems like they have more hi res content than Tidal... I have a music app problem... help
 
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Maybe I can find a reason to shorten my list of music apps now. I've become a bit of an app junky, started with Spotify and then tried Tidal for higher res and their Daily Discovery, while keeping Spotify for convenience. Then Tidal was having issues streaming to my Denon-Marantz equipment so I got Qobuz, and it seems like they have more hi res content than Tidal... I have a music app problem... help
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Join the AA. Audiophiles Anonymous ;)
 
Anyone knows when it comes to Belgium? :D

Lossless is rolling out gradually to more than 50 markets through October. Premium subscribers in Australia, Austria, Czechia, Denmark, Germany, Japan, New Zealand, the Netherlands, Portugal, Sweden, the US, and the UK have already started to get access.
 
Mike_Trueman said:
Anyone knows when it comes to Belgium? :D

Lossless is rolling out gradually to more than 50 markets through October. Premium subscribers in Australia, Austria, Czechia, Denmark, Germany, Japan, New Zealand, the Netherlands, Portugal, Sweden, the US, and the UK have already started to get access.
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I read somwhere that it will be released in Belgium in October.
 
Personnaly i don't even know if or when I'd use this upgrade cos I love '' streamdigging '' (streaming equivalent of cratedigging), and the low data volume of the actual codec allows me to get almost instantaneous track switching, it's a confort feature Spotify is aware of and worked on for a seamless experience. I'm not ready to give it up for a sound quality I will very rarely if ever perceive.
 
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