Looking for a specific kind of amplifier

[Forty six and two]

I have two pioneer receivers, one is vsx 1131. The vocals on it are amazing, it can make any song sound better but because of that there is not much instruments separation, instruments sound bright too.
In short i am looking for an amplifier that has airy bright vocals but has warm detailed instrument sound. Is it possible to find one?

Or amplifier that is musical but little bit on the warmer side.

Thanks.

P. S. - Mostly listen to Hard Rock, Heavy Metal

 

[staticV3]

Get yourself an amplifier with built-in EQ and you can make the sound as airy, warm, or detailed as you'd like.

The WiiM Amp is a good place to start, or the upcoming Amp Pro.

 

[Doodski]

I have two pioneer receivers, one is vsx 1131. The vocals on it are amazing, it can make any song sound better but because of that there is not much instruments separation, instruments sound bright too.
In short i am looking for an amplifier that has airy bright vocals but has warm detailed instrument sound. Is it possible?
Thanks.

No, it is not usually possible but maybe somebody has voiced a amp to do this. Using a amp to smooth out your sound and lend definition is not what amps do. If you want that use EQ/PEQ. Are you using parametric EQ?

 

[Forty six and two]

Get yourself an amplifier with built-in EQ and you can make the sound as airy, warm, or detailed as you'd like.

The WiiM Amp is a good place to start, or the upcoming Amp Pro.

How can i use the eq to make the amp airy?

 

[Forty six and two]

No, it is not usually possible but maybe somebody has voiced a amp to do this. Using a amp to smooth out your sound and lend definition is not what amps do. If you want that use EQ/PEQ. Are you using parametric EQ?

Parametric eq ? Is it external EQ?

 

[Doodski]

Parametric eq ? Is it external EQ?

It looks like this if for Windows.

 

[Chrispy]

I think you're attributing too much to amps as to how they shape sound, or can possibly shape sound for that matter. Equalization is different and you need sufficient amp to take care of boosts keep in mind. The avr doesn't have a particular flavor aside from it's particular dsp options IMO. Basically you should choose a modern ss amp on power and impedance particularly, perhaps feature set, altho that's not the whole story, just a great bit of it.

 

[Multicore]

How can i use the eq to make the amp airy?

You can't. But you can make the music sound airy by emphasizing high frequencies using eq.

Parametric eq ? Is it external EQ?

Not necessarily external. Parametric refers to a common way of configuring eq. Graphic eq is another common one.

Eq can be in an external device but these days it's often in integrated amps, preamps, computer sources, streamers, active speakers, AVRs, even phones.

 

[Chrispy]

What is the other Pioneer unit (aside from the 1131) ?

 

[Forty six and two]

I think you're attributing too much to amps as to how they shape sound, or can possibly shape sound for that matter. Equalization is different and you need sufficient amp to take care of boosts keep in mind. The avr doesn't have a particular flavor aside from it's particular dsp options IMO. Basically you should choose a modern ss amp on power and impedance particularly, perhaps feature set, altho that's not the whole story, just a great bit of it.

You mean power amp?

 

[Forty six and two]

What is the other Pioneer unit (aside from the 1131) ?

Vsx 1122. Amazing very neutral sound.

 

[staticV3]

How can i use the eq to make the amp airy?

By boosting 10kHz and up:

 

[Sokel]

By EQ we talking about tone-control-like one,right?
Or else anechoic data must be used IF the speaker is EQ-able.

 

[Multicore]

By boosting 10kHz and up:
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That's a good answer so long as OP understands that "airy" isn't a property of amps but of overall system frequency response.

The distinction might be important as it seems OP might misunderstand which causes lead to which perceptual effects. In certain audio communities people talk about amps "having a sound" and how you need to select the amp to get the sound you want given the givens, e.g. speakers. Here at ASR, otoh, many of us prefer to separate tone control from amp selection.

 

[pogo]

Or amplifier that is musical but little bit on the warmer side.

T+A A200 in position DF LO.

 

[eddantes]

Amps have a miniscule effect on sound. So small you are unlikely to identify it in a blind test. This is why all those posts about EQ. If you want to shape sound - use an equalizer and make it as you like to the limits that first - your room, and second - your speakers, will allow.

 

[Verig]

What speakers do you have and how they're situated in the room?
Depending on your set you may get pretty far just by changing speaker placement, toe in and perhaps some acoustic diffusion / absorption.
After that EQ.

Things you describe might very well be within speaker placement effects, especially the instrument separation.

 

[pogo]

Amps have a miniscule effect on sound.

You are very wrong.

 

[Talisman]

You are very wrong.

I agree, I once tried to make my KEF speakers play by connecting them directly to the Dac but the result was really bad, instead using the amplifier it works much better.

 

[eddantes]

I agree, I once tried to make my KEF speakers play by connecting them directly to the Dac but the result was really bad, instead using the amplifier it works much better.

Very true. Dac just wont cut it.