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Lmaois that what Nikon said when they introduced the 43-86 zoom?
Lmaois that what Nikon said when they introduced the 43-86 zoom?
Very, very, few zooms have boke competitive with primes. They usually have worse field flatness, depending on the set focal length.Zooms have no inherent detriments quality-wise compared to primes (in reality, zooms are far more R&D heavy on development costs by quite a bit).
The whole point of my original post was that the photographic community and press only seem to consider sharpness when there are other, equally important IME, lens characteristics which are hardly mentioned outside pro photographers who need them.Their resolving power even at 50MP+ resolutions aren't impacted.
The Olympus primes I have are all good for boke. The 150mm f2 is spectacular, 75 f1.8 and 300 f4 very good too.BTW, Olympus has 3 different lenses specialized for great bokeh in their m43 line.
I still think photography on the internet is a "one trick pony" and the trick is not the only important one. Resolution is already way beyond what most photographers need, nice boke is still rare.
Lenses have been doing this ever since they were first developed. It’s an inherent consequence of the thin lens equation. Keeping the focal length constant with changes in focus requires a far more complex lens, and this is one of the reasons that cine lenses are more expensive.Yes internal focus by small focal length changes are now common on autofocus lenses so many recent "primes" are indeed zoom lenses!
I am not sure what is meant here. There is one company that measures lenses and provides corrections for their software to apply it: DXO with their Photolab. And that works and is great. But that is it. No lens has EPROMs which holds corrections to be applied during raw to jpeg conversion outside the cameras. And the internal camera jpegs that might use some lens correction stuff are what Spotify mp3s are for music compared to raw processing outside the camera. And there is no room, hence lens corrections do not have to care about a room as speakers have. And there is only one lens, not 2 to 7.
DXO has better corrections than Adobe, etc. according to what I've heard. Also, CaNikon don't release all the lens correction data to anybody outside their co.
Sorry, I was referring to my needs, I realise that a landscape photographer, for example, is more sensitive to full field sharpness and, to an extent flatness of field, which are of little importance to me.I will say, as a photographer and as someone with photographer friends (all of us doing it for art, not commerce) that you shouldn't make assumptions about what anyone's looking for from their tools.
I worded this badly too.I can't say much about "photography on the internet"
...ranges from people who just want to get the picture they want to people who spend all their time on test shots and measurement graphs.
I'm not sure if I understand what you're saying here. Adobe camera raw and lightroom software both support lens profiles from a large database. They can automatically correct distortions and lateral chromatic aberration, and can reduce the effects of longitudinal chromatic aberration. Nikon's own raw processing software includes these features (with profiles only for supported Nikon lenses). Hasselblad's newer generation lenses are designed from the ground up to be corrected with lens-specific profiles in their raw processing software. This means they can ignore distortion and certain chromatic aberrations almost entirely, and put their engineering efforts into aberrations that can't be fixed in processing. This seems to me very much like dsp correction in speakers—not for correcting room problems, but for correcting cabinet resonances and shortcomings of drivers, crossovers etc.
Some people commented, that these lenses are only useable with corrections. Meaning, for speaker we would end with a scenario where each driver is connected to an outboard DSP that does the crossover. Why not. But one would need a feedback loop with a mic, like the Echo studio. So each speaker pair comes with a remote wireless microphone, all cabled up with a DSP. Yes, that could work. Except, the discussion on the correct room curves fills hundreds of posts already. At least the lens industry knows what they are aiming at.
"God, grant me the serenitySome people commented, that these lenses are only useable with corrections. Meaning, for speaker we would end with a scenario where each driver is connected to an outboard DSP that does the crossover. Why not. But one would need a feedback loop with a mic, like the Echo studio. So each speaker pair comes with a remote wireless microphone, all cabled up with a DSP. Yes, that could work. Except, the discussion on the correct room curves fills hundreds of posts already. At least the lens industry knows what they are aiming at.
I think the reason "that the photographic community and press only seem to consider sharpness" in lenses is the wow effect from digital.
If you scan in your slides it is immediately apparent that that gear wasn't all that sharp.
Once this wears off, people will be searching for the next great thing.
BTW, Olympus has 3 different lenses specialized for great bokeh in their m43 line.
I think the biggest similarity between lenses and audio is the "magical thinking" that goes on in the high end of both hobbies. The "Gestalt" of an unubtainium Leica lens .
Do you have much experience with the special rendering of certain Leica lenses?
In some circumstances the photos taken with them can easily be distinguished - in a blinded testing.
That is not the same thing as determining mechanistically what factors cause that, just as an epidemiological result is not the same thing as determining mechanistically what factors cause the disease or disfunction.
This may help:
Leicaness Leica Look
https://www.artphotoacademy.com/the-leica-look/
Leica Glow - a localized haze around highlights; residual spherical aberrations
- out of focus areas & colors that ‘pop’
high contrast
high levels of detail where it is needed
pleasant softness in areas that do not require much attention
ability to see the whole tonal range effortlessly.
Deep 3D look
Positive Bokeh - balls are brighter in the middle and darker closer to the outside of the shape
very high micro-contrast - register a nearly full variety of tonal variations between slightly darker and slightly brighter areas of very similar colors; gives rich colors and smooth tonal transitions to produce a three-dimensional “feel”
and no, it is not accurate - nor is a wah wah pedal