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Lenire Tinnitus Treatment

Thank you Jeff. Alas, the treatment was ineffective. Fortunately I am able to cope very well with my tinnitus anyway and most of the time I don't even know it is there.
Thanks for the reports Amir! Thankfully my tinnitus is very moderate, specially considering the abuse I've subjected my ears to.
Most normally mine can be the worse in the mornings, sometimes seeming to wake me up with a loud hissing type noise.
Otherwise barely noticeable during the day and evenings.
After a few gunfire injuries in the 70s - 80s I became anal about protection at the range, at concerts, anywhere very loud.
I do really miss hearing a full FR at live concerts, etc but better that than the alternatives.
 
I’d known of a possible treatment based on tinnitus retraining therapy, which used small hearing aid like devices in the ear to softly pump in carefully sculpted white noise which overtime was supposed to help the brain recalibrate and get used to noise. (The devices reduce dynamic range to a degree so sounds hard as startling, and over many months, the nature of the sound is changed and the sound is dialled higher and higher).

I underwent the therapy and the result was, while not a total cure, that my regular hearing came back, and was more robust then it had been in 20 years. It was frankly glorious.
Do you remember anything more specific about this sculpted noise, like which provider or program, or if it was the well known notch therapy of 1 octave around your tinnitus frequency, or something else?
 
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Do you remember anything more specific about this sculpted noise, like which provider or program, or if it was the well known notch therapy of 1 octave around your tinnitus frequency, or something else?

It was created by the audiologist who treated me, based on testing my hearing.

Since my treatment was for hyperacusis, the specific noise might’ve been a bit different than if I was being treated for my tinnitus.

Not sure of the exact basis of how the noise was chosen. But I do remember that it was quieter and a softer quality to begin with, and became a bit more challenging and coarse as he changed it over the months. I believe he was adding more upper frequency, energy or something like that as we went along.
 
The progression of my tinnitus achieved another milestone. It penetrated my unconscious mind in the form of a dream. Being asleep is one of the few ways I have of escaping the constant screaming so it's a bummer that this refuge has been breached. I believe it's quite common for dreams to invent narratives that fit real external sounds, it's certainly happened to me, but this has now happened with the tinnitus. In the dream the high pitch tone appeared and in the dream I had to go hunting for an insect in the house to swat to stop it. I found a suspect, swatted, and something too disgusting to relate happened, and the noise was unaffected, and then I woke up and the noise was still there.
 
The progression of my tinnitus achieved another milestone. It penetrated my unconscious mind in the form of a dream. Being asleep is one of the few ways I have of escaping the constant screaming so it's a bummer that this refuge has been breached. I believe it's quite common for dreams to invent narratives that fit real external sounds, it's certainly happened to me, but this has now happened with the tinnitus. In the dream the high pitch tone appeared and in the dream I had to go hunting for an insect in the house to swat to stop it. I found a suspect, swatted, and something too disgusting to relate happened, and the noise was unaffected, and then I woke up and the noise was still there.

I’m very sorry to hear of your troubles.

Do you know what caused your tinnitus? How long have you had it? Is this something you’ve had for a long time is only more recently become subjectively louder or something?
 
Been going to an ENT and audiologist in same practice. There is a tinnitus treatment clinic at Duke near me and one in GBO. The ENT I see said he had not had a tinnitus patient that got any relief from going to either place but worth I shot if me and my insurance company wanted to pay. Suddenly lost more hearing in my right ear after have a bunch of wax get impacted (?) Had to be removed mechanically. I had to hold myself down while that was going on. YOW! Getting old is so much fun.
 
The progression of my tinnitus achieved another milestone. It penetrated my unconscious mind in the form of a dream. Being asleep is one of the few ways I have of escaping the constant screaming so it's a bummer that this refuge has been breached. I believe it's quite common for dreams to invent narratives that fit real external sounds, it's certainly happened to me, but this has now happened with the tinnitus. In the dream the high pitch tone appeared and in the dream I had to go hunting for an insect in the house to swat to stop it. I found a suspect, swatted, and something too disgusting to relate happened, and the noise was unaffected, and then I woke up and the noise was still there.
Had the tinnitus for a long, long time. & it varies a lot as to how & how loud it seems to manifest itself.
But, so far, not in my dreams. I hope that your sub-conscious can keep a block on the tinnitus from interfering on that level any more.
 
Massive thanks amirm for being out there about your tinnitus and this treatment.
Sorry it didn't work for you and thanks for sharing the lesson and the derecommendation.
I have tinnitus in abundance since I turned 50; I guess I can't hear the high frequencies anymore because this whooshing/hissing sound I hear drowns them out.
The main saving grace for me is it doesn't get me down. I still enjoy my music and gear the same way I always did. If the tinnitus sounds become intrusive it somehow doesn't bother my mood, because they just are, they are a part of me and my biography, I don't find them hostile and don't try and fight them.
This summer my daughter came to visit me in France, and was amazed in the evening that I couldn't hear how loud the crickets were singing. I could hardly hear them at all, but I didn't mind.
I remember the glorious sound of crickets in the summers gone past, and I was glad she could hear them then.
 
Difficult to find the best Tinnitus thread but many links here on studies and not the most detailed. I use this site to keep up science news and then dig deeper with more authoritative sources. Sorry about the pop-ups. FYI
 
Thanks to whoever posted about this new treatment for Tinnitus, I signed up on their waiting list a few months ago. I thought they wouldn't call me as they have no providers in Washington state. To my surprise a couple of weeks ago an Audiologist from Alaska (!) contacted me saying he is also licensed in Washington state (prior to that, I got a questionnaire from Lenire). Before they would do anything for me, they required an audiologist report/exam from a local lab. Had that scheduled for earlier this afternoon. I asked the Dr. that was running my test about this treatment. She said the research looks good and that every audiology lab in US is clamoring to sign up to provide it! She said the company is very picky on who they bring onboard. She also said I was lucky to have gotten through as they have a ton of patients that are still waiting. She said a number of people had actually flown to Alaska to get the treatment!

My tinnitus is pretty much under control and I only hear it when thinking about it, as in right now! :) And sometimes when there are loud sounds or my allergies get bad. Still would be nice to have it treated. Mine is the type that is the frequencies I don't hear anymore, i.e. very high pitch sound.

I thought I keep you all posted on this in case you are also interested. If you have tinnitus, I suggest getting on their waiting list just in case the outcome is positive for me and you want to try it as well.

EDIT: I went through the "treatment" and it resulted in no improvements. It cost thousands of dollars for the equipment/doctor fee and huge dedication of time to use the thing on a nightly basis. I highly recommend against it.

Based on my own experience with tinnitus, I noticed it disappearing almost completely after I put some drops of vegetable oil in each ear for a few days, because I wanted to have them cleaned of ear wax. Since then, this is my go to method. It might work for you too. Nothing lost if you give it a try.
 
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There' one true approach to avoid getting Tinnitus.
As my father used to say "Don't get old son, don't get old !
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Since I’ve chimed in a little bit about my own struggles with tinnitus I figure now is a good time for a little update.

It’s been two years since I even turned my two channel or home theatre system on. :confused:
Two years since I had a huge flareup of my tinnitus. It was very hard to sleep. And the worst part is that the tinnitus had become extremely reactive - if I even tried to listen quietly to a video or any music just on my iPhone speakers, it would set my ears ringing loud enough to make it hard to sleep at night.

The thing is, whenever I’ve dealt with flareups before through the past few decades I’ve been able to just move on with regular life, work, going out and about, etc. So that I could forget about it, and it would just go into the background and my brain would just habituate.

Unfortunately, four years of deterioration from another health condition has left me quite disabled, spending almost all my time lying down on the sofa in my listening room.
So there’s been a double whammy of the tinnitus no doubt being exacerbated by the system stress of this condition, while also preventing me from working or taking part in regular life to allow habituation. To be stuck in my listening room almost all day staring at my speakers without being able to even listen to music or watch a movie in my home theatre to pass the time has been…. challenging to say the least.

But this isn’t meant as a woe-is-me post. Everybody’s got their own stuff to deal with.
The above is just setting the scene for the following more positive report:

Lately I’ve noticed that I’ve been able to have a video or a music playing on my iPhone for much longer periods of time and also I would be playing music on my iPhone in the background while I do some activities, and it hasn’t been exacerbating my tinnitus. I took that as a good sign.

And just this week I decided to fire up my system and sit down for a very careful listen! I’m talking really quiet levels of playback, like 37-42db average.
And it went well! I could actually relax and enjoy what I was hearing. I started off very briefly the first day maybe about 10 minutes.
Then I expanded it to about 20 minutes and a little beyond for the last couple of days. My ears seem to be handling it ok. So I’m going to keep going with this, slowly nudging the volume up overtime carefully.

I have to say: I immediately felt my quality of life rise, just in being able to do this! It felt so incredibly nourishing. I was actually able to still enjoy the music even at those super soft levels. And I was also able to enjoy the audiophile stuff… the way my speakers just disappeared and cast this wide deep sound stage and just enjoying the magic act of imaging, all the little details in the instrumentation, recording, etc.

I had started this little experiment wondering if it was going to sound as good as I remembered, and boy did it ever. Certainly detail is a little bit more opaque at such low playback level levels (my CJ tube preamp is just a few notches above zero !), but I couldn’t believe how gorgeous the tonality of everything was.
The sound is lush, open, airy, vivid… and without even the remotest hint of coarseness, grain or etch. Just super relaxing for my ears, which is exactly what I need. All those years honing my system to my taste sure paid off.

I also worried that perhaps I might even have trouble sitting there and just listening to music. The reason is that having been stuck on the sofa interacting with the world through my phone the past several years (all voice dictated ) has basically supercharged my iPhone addiction and I can actually feel it frying my brain and attention span. (I’m taking steps to sometimes just leave my phone in another room.). But once the system was on, and the music was playing I was as seduced by the experience as ever and I just wanted to listen and listen all night (but I was careful to not go too far yet).

So to me, this is a hugely positive development, very hopeful, and an absolute upgrade in quality of life, even at this point.

Onwards and upwards!

(btw, I’ve also made some nice steps in the direction of recovery from my main health condition, which is very encouraging as well)
 
Since I’ve chimed in a little bit about my own struggles with tinnitus I figure now is a good time for a little update.

It’s been two years since I even turned my two channel or home theatre system on. :confused:
Two years since I had a huge flareup of my tinnitus. It was very hard to sleep. And the worst part is that the tinnitus had become extremely reactive - if I even tried to listen quietly to a video or any music just on my iPhone speakers, it would set my ears ringing loud enough to make it hard to sleep at night.

The thing is, whenever I’ve dealt with flareups before through the past few decades I’ve been able to just move on with regular life, work, going out and about, etc. So that I could forget about it, and it would just go into the background and my brain would just habituate.

Unfortunately, four years of deterioration from another health condition has left me quite disabled, spending almost all my time lying down on the sofa in my listening room.
So there’s been a double whammy of the tinnitus no doubt being exacerbated by the system stress of this condition, while also preventing me from working or taking part in regular life to allow habituation. To be stuck in my listening room almost all day staring at my speakers without being able to even listen to music or watch a movie in my home theatre to pass the time has been…. challenging to say the least.

But this isn’t meant as a woe-is-me post. Everybody’s got their own stuff to deal with.
The above is just setting the scene for the following more positive report:

Lately I’ve noticed that I’ve been able to have a video or a music playing on my iPhone for much longer periods of time and also I would be playing music on my iPhone in the background while I do some activities, and it hasn’t been exacerbating my tinnitus. I took that as a good sign.

And just this week I decided to fire up my system and sit down for a very careful listen! I’m talking really quiet levels of playback, like 37-42db average.
And it went well! I could actually relax and enjoy what I was hearing. I started off very briefly the first day maybe about 10 minutes.
Then I expanded it to about 20 minutes and a little beyond for the last couple of days. My ears seem to be handling it ok. So I’m going to keep going with this, slowly nudging the volume up overtime carefully.

I have to say: I immediately felt my quality of life rise, just in being able to do this! It felt so incredibly nourishing. I was actually able to still enjoy the music even at those super soft levels. And I was also able to enjoy the audiophile stuff… the way my speakers just disappeared and cast this wide deep sound stage and just enjoying the magic act of imaging, all the little details in the instrumentation, recording, etc.

I had started this little experiment wondering if it was going to sound as good as I remembered, and boy did it ever. Certainly detail is a little bit more opaque at such low playback level levels (my CJ tube preamp is just a few notches above zero !), but I couldn’t believe how gorgeous the tonality of everything was.
The sound is lush, open, airy, vivid… and without even the remotest hint of coarseness, grain or etch. Just super relaxing for my ears, which is exactly what I need. All those years honing my system to my taste sure paid off.

I also worried that perhaps I might even have trouble sitting there and just listening to music. The reason is that having been stuck on the sofa interacting with the world through my phone the past several years (all voice dictated ) has basically supercharged my iPhone addiction and I can actually feel it frying my brain and attention span. (I’m taking steps to sometimes just leave my phone in another room.). But once the system was on, and the music was playing I was as seduced by the experience as ever and I just wanted to listen and listen all night (but I was careful to not go too far yet).

So to me, this is a hugely positive development, very hopeful, and an absolute upgrade in quality of life, even at this point.

Onwards and upwards!

(btw, I’ve also made some nice steps in the direction of recovery from my main health condition, which is very encouraging as well)

I hope this positive trajectory continues!
 
Very good to hear you're recovering.

At the risk of giving unwanted advice, and not knowing for sure I had tinnitus, I noticed it subsiding almost completely by applying a few drops of vegetable oil in my ears, every evening. And by not giving it attention it somehow seems to get lesser and lesser too.

Anyway, I wish you all the best and hope you'll get better and better.
 
Very good to hear you're recovering.

At the risk of giving unwanted advice, and not knowing for sure I had tinnitus, I noticed it subsiding almost completely by applying a few drops of vegetable oil in my ears, every evening. And by not giving it attention it somehow seems to get lesser and lesser too.

Anyway, I wish you all the best and hope you'll get better and better.
A wide variety of things work for different people. Thank you for putting that out there. Perhaps it will work for some others
The scientific and medical communities have not been able to find a solution that consistently works.
It looks like it is up to us to find a solution for ourselves on an individual basis and pass any information on one that worked
for ourselves on, as it MAY also work for someone else.
Thanks for passing that on.
 
Thank you Jeff. Alas, the treatment was ineffective. Fortunately I am able to cope very well with my tinnitus anyway and most of the time I don't even know it is there.
Reading, hearing or thinking about tinnitus is guaranteed to cause my tinnitus to manifest. 99% of the time I don't even notice it. Exposure to somewhat loud to very loud sounds can bring it on for a while, too, and it eventually fades into the background. It's clearly a neurological issue with me.
 
Exposure to somewhat loud to very loud sounds can bring it on for a while, too, and it eventually fades into the background. It's clearly a neurological issue with me.
Funny as mine seems at it's worse first thing in the AM, sometimes almost waking me from my sleep. :(
 
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