Lenire Tinnitus Treatment

[Emlin]

Harsh but fair, it's pure snake oil. But for tinnitus there isn't a real treatment, so placebo might be a good way to go if it's really bothering you. Placebo does work, even when you know it's placebo, and the more complicated the placebo the more it works. Acupuncture is more complicated than a sugar pill so it works better, the brain is a weird place.

A placebo normally only works when you know it is a placebo if you are told that the placebo might still work for you as others, who weren't told that it was a placebo, said they benefited from it. An important and often ignored point.

 

[Emlin]

It is, but If subjective helpful- why not?

Like expensive cables etc, then? It's snake oil. Avoid!

 

[Soniclife]

A placebo normally only works when you know it is a placebo if you are told that the placebo might still work for you as others, who weren't told that it was a placebo, said they benefited from it. An important and often ignored point.

So placebos only work when they have been proved to work as placebos? Or have I missed your point.

 

[Blake]

I've always found acupuncturists to be a bunch of pricks.

No one has yet appreciated this beautiful pun, so let me step in to be the first.

 

[Emlin]

So placebos only work when they have been proved to work as placebos? Or have I missed your point.

No, you have missed THE point.

 

[Joe Smith]

Just received some of the little Audien Audio "Atom 2" earpieces. Not a bad value for about $250 shipped. Going to take their nice 45-day evaluation period to wear the R earbud and see if the slight sound boost (with volume at the first click) does anything to tamp down my tinnitus at end of day, when it always seems worse.

Right now I'm wearing them while listening to some Alexi Perala on Spotify on my workroom nearfield system; the sound balance is not too bad with just the R earpiece in. I probably will use them for the most part when not listening to music, though. The chip in them does of course emphasize sharper sounds, such as keyboarding or walking down our 1916 slightly-creaky wood stairs.

 

[Piraya]

Harsh but fair, it's pure snake oil. But for tinnitus there isn't a real treatment, so placebo might be a good way to go if it's really bothering you...

I have always had better outcomes with traditional acupuncturists over the younger, New Age types.
Especially if they have a few decades of experience.
Then again, acupuncture might be akin to chiropractic, religion and politics.
Better outcomes for those who have faith they work.

 

[EJ3]

No, you have missed THE point.

What about when you are told it MIGHT be a placebo, that's why we are testing it to see if it works on you?

 

[Salt]

No new treatment, but some effects of tinnitus could be evaluated (perception is the one, processing it the other side of the medal):
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14992027.2023.2185756

 

[MattHooper]

No new treatment, but some effects of tinnitus could be evaluated (perception is the one, processing it the other side of the medal):
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14992027.2023.2185756

Interesting thanks.

I experienced a huge spike in my tinnitus around four or five months ago, and haven’t listened to music since :-(

I’m currently doing some Neuroplasticity/CBT/brain retraining stuff for my Long Covid symptoms, but apparently it can also work well for habituating to Tinnitus.

Fortunately, I’ve habituated to sleeping again, the tinnitus rarely intrudes upon my sleep, but I’m not sure I’m ready for louder noise exposure yet.

 

[Doodski]

Interesting thanks.

I experienced a huge spike in my tinnitus around four or five months ago, and haven’t listened to music since :-(

I’m currently doing some Neuroplasticity/CBT/brain retraining stuff for my Long Covid symptoms, but apparently it can also work well for habituating to Tinnitus.

Fortunately, I’ve habituated to sleeping again, the tinnitus rarely intrudes upon my sleep, but I’m not sure I’m ready for louder noise exposure yet.

I find if I have a good session with music and enjoy that that the tinnitus reduces to a non annoying level. Have you tried breaking on through like that? In other words my tinnitus does not get triggered by music and it seems when all is quiet that it comes a knocking on my brain door and show itself loud and clear.

 

[MattHooper]

I find if I have a good session with music and enjoy that that the tinnitus reduces to a non annoying level. Have you tried breaking on through like that? In other words my tinnitus does not get triggered by music and it seems when all is quiet that it comes a knocking on my brain door and show itself loud and clear.

It’s a bit of an odd situation. I’m an old pro and dealing with my tinnitus since I’ve had it for many decades. Sometimes it can get super loud, and over the past few years, especially if it got louder I had way of dealing with it. But it was one extra long louder than usual listening session that had my ears absolutely screaming with ringing when I tried to sleep. It was really scary. And since then, I’ve been really spooked. And the problem is that it is thus far reactive tinnitus, so it tends to spike very easily and the tinnitus often gets louder over whatever I’m listening to.

So I’ve been very cautious. More cautious is unusual. And previous times yes I have been able to sort of just work through it and the way you mention.

 

[amirm]

My tinnitus has sharply reduced in the few months post "treatment" I went through. Reading this thread triggered it but otherwise, I can only remember it happening a week or two ago.

 

[Doodski]

It’s a bit of an odd situation. I’m an old pro and dealing with my tinnitus since I’ve had it for many decades. Sometimes it can get super loud, and over the past few years, especially if it got louder I had way of dealing with it. But it was one extra long louder than usual listening session that had my ears absolutely screaming with ringing when I tried to sleep. It was really scary. And since then, I’ve been really spooked. And the problem is that it is thus far reactive tinnitus, so it tends to spike very easily and the tinnitus often gets louder over whatever I’m listening to.

So I’ve been very cautious. More cautious is unusual. And previous times yes I have been able to sort of just work through it and the way you mention.

Wow.. That sounds horrible. Sorry to hear that it is so extreme and pronounced that sleep is interfered with. Mine is a loud peeeeeP sound that goes up and down and then finally goes up to a state where it is no longer annoying and fades away.

 

[Doodski]

My tinnitus has sharply reduced in the few months post "treatment" I went through. Reading this thread triggered it but otherwise, I can only remember it happening a week or two ago.

I'm reading ASR with the music loud and so I'm saved from that reoccurring memory of it triggering it.

 

[EJ3]

It’s a bit of an odd situation. I’m an old pro and dealing with my tinnitus since I’ve had it for many decades. Sometimes it can get super loud, and over the past few years, especially if it got louder I had way of dealing with it. But it was one extra long louder than usual listening session that had my ears absolutely screaming with ringing when I tried to sleep. It was really scary. And since then, I’ve been really spooked. And the problem is that it is thus far reactive tinnitus, so it tends to spike very easily and the tinnitus often gets louder over whatever I’m listening to.

So I’ve been very cautious. More cautious is unusual. And previous times yes I have been able to sort of just work through it and the way you mention.

I also have tinnitus (but not at the level that you are experiencing). I hope that things get better & better for you each day.

 

[Ncesar]

My tinnitus sometimes is so bad, that i can barely sleep at night. I start to get nervous and stressed laid in bed,and have to get up and go to coutch watch TV and fall asleep because I'm very tired. Stressed and nervous because of tinnitus and lack of sleep, sometimes I have really bad days...

 

[Snarfie]

My tinnitus has sharply reduced in the few months post "treatment" I went through. Reading this thread triggered it but otherwise, I can only remember it happening a week or two ago.

Here i was around a year ago.

Lenire Tinnitus Treatment

I heard a story several years ago where a fellow was so obsessed with the ringing in his hear he had the audio nerve in his ear surgically severed. The ringing persisted even after the operation. :eek::oops:

www.audiosciencereview.com

Around 4 months ago till now the noise is really absent or extreme faint i even can't rate it anymore as minimal bodering. So i probably in the 70 % group my docter told me that heald more or less automatically. So from januari 2023 when it was realy bad till around 4 months ago mai this year i'am more or less close to a 100% recovery.

 

[MattHooper]

Here i was around a year ago.

Lenire Tinnitus Treatment

I heard a story several years ago where a fellow was so obsessed with the ringing in his hear he had the audio nerve in his ear surgically severed. The ringing persisted even after the operation. :eek::oops:

www.audiosciencereview.com

Around 4 months ago till now the noise is really absent or extreme faint i even can't rate it anymore as minimal bodering. So i probably in the 70 % group my docter told me that heald more or less automatically. So from januari 2023 when it was realy bad till around 4 months ago mai this year i'am more or less close to a 100% recovery.

So you just habituated? This wasn’t from any particular treatment?

 

[krabapple]

Interesting thanks.

I experienced a huge spike in my tinnitus around four or five months ago, and haven’t listened to music since :-(

I’m currently doing some Neuroplasticity/CBT/brain retraining stuff for my Long Covid symptoms, but apparently it can also work well for habituating to Tinnitus.

Fortunately, I’ve habituated to sleeping again, the tinnitus rarely intrudes upon my sleep, but I’m not sure I’m ready for louder noise exposure yet.

I'm truly sorry to hear this. I hope it gets better for you.

FWIW, mine spiked up a few years ago and never went away, though intensity varies. But I find I can still 'listen through' and sometimes ignore completely. I also find that after listening to music, it's worse for awhile :< This is via speakers, headphones/earbuds makes it even worse.

Also fwiw, I did Lenire for six months solid. It didn't work. That's a few thousand $$ that could have gone towards , I dunno, a nice electric scooter , a vintage Fender P bass, or something like that. Still, I feel it was worth a try, supposedly it had a 70% success rate.