It has been the darkest time since I started this site.My condolences to both Erin and @amirm for the crap they've had to put up with. I cannot imagine what it is like to work with/for Mr. Alexander.
You've been a bright light in that darkness, my friend -- kudos to the stand-up guy you are.
It's the old "subjective vs objective" discussion just on an unnecessarily damaging level. Looks like a fund for legal threats coming from manufacturers indeed is necessary to protect objective reviews and ultimately the truth. Sounds pathetic but that's what it has come to due to the actions of @Eric Alexander . He has done a big disservice to the community and anyone who wants to enjoy high-quality audio.
What makes you think this is over?
Hope, not think
Indeed: get this legal fund starting. I (and I am sure, many members feel the same) want to see this installed as a strong statement for the freedom of speech and our solidarity with people like our host Amir, Erin and other reviewers out there, who spread the truth on the basis of science. And I really would appreciate manufacturers contributing as well, since this is also a threat for companies, which follow science for good reasons: the likes of Genelec, Neumann, Kef, Revel, Dutch & Dutch, Kii, Sigberg Audio, Fink Audio (just examples of loudspeaker companies, add other companies and manufacturers of electronics.....)...They all profit to some extent from the reviews here, at EAC and some other places, where they shine because of their superior measurements. They wouldn't profit from a world, where subjective audiofoolery reigns.
Soccer?
You know, this is the kind of crap that behavior like Mr. Alexander's imposes on other people. This is beyond business, economic concerns, social awkwardness or a "passionate small businessman trying to protect his livelihood". All of those things are simply human even when they get unpleasant. Mr. Alexander, on the other hand, is trying to make himself and his "problems" the focus of Erin's life and insinuate himself into it. Who the f@#€k does that? Remember that in his last messages here he was being complimentary to Erin and saying he was a "decent guy and would happily send him more speakers, yada yada", while making Amirm his target du jour. Now it's apparent that he was continuing to try and manipulate Erin, too.
I just think it's important to recognize his actions for what they are and not lose sight of how really bizzare and disfuncional they are. If you haven't had the "pleasure" of dealing with people like this before it can be hard to see just how manipulative they are being. My condolences to both Erin and @amirm for the crap they've had to put up with. I cannot imagine what it is like to work with/for Mr. Alexander
This is all my personal opinion, of course.
What do you mean by "leave the rest of us out of it"? The way Tekton tried to threaten Erin and Amir into submission potentially could have led to the end of any contribution of the two, or anybody trying to do objective reviews for the greater good. You are already "in it", @Eric Alexander made sure of that. Obviously we need to set and enforce clear and consistent boundaries. A legal fund could be such a tool.
Sorry, but I disagree with a gung-ho approach.
If I publish it, it's solid and defensible.
My bad. Relying on a less than perfect memory
That’s how I see it as well. Erin does not want to hear about Tekton ever, same at Audioholics. Tekton can continue claiming they have the best mids in the world as demonstrated by a few solicited (controlled) reviews……. They won!
It's definitely teamwork, I used to be in BD/sales/contract management of medium-large projects. In my experience, the sales persons will have to have at least some affinity and background with the technical part (the more, the better), while the engineers definitely have to have the social and organisational competences to make a success of the bid & project aligning with their counter parts, suppliers and team members. It's really the drafts(wo)men that are doing the grinding and having less interactions. The project managers control the project w.r.t. schedule, budget, changes, troubleshooting/escalating issues and handling sr. management and client.I’m a practicing engineer I’ve found that I works as much with people as I do with tech .
We deliver a handful of projects every year and the work is to fit and adapt our products and software to the costumer needs . I spend months discovering how the current plant works having meetings with the clients engineering and their process operators discussing everything.
I’m not the project manager we have those to on the project and a sales persons. Before the project starts I have also advised sales in technical matters .
It’s a teamwork if engineering did not had social skills our company would be done for . So yes this is partly a myth that rational thinking people can’t be social
But it’s true to some extent I’ve gladly hand over negotiations to sales and project managers and try not to interfere there
But engineering on our side a suppliers has a very level and honest dialogue with our clients engineering .
They understand more than our sales people are comfortable to think about
So,it’s a multi level thing our sales talk to thier sales our project manager talks to thier project manager. I as an engineer engage with thier engineering.
I would say it’s a different kind of social skill .
...or impulse control by the owner.
