LATIN MUSIC YOU'D SHARE

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And don't forget this one!

 

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Pardon screen shot format of this response to ASR member's comment #17 - my bandwidth was crashing. NOTE: Just the first 3 lines are from #17 and then my own text begins "Elias Ochoa describes the "Sublime Illusion"….. My first quote about that is shown down below as is my other quote of his.

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"No me dijo el nombre Buena Vista Social Club sino que iba a participar un americano Ry Cooder y que la discográfica era de él y así."

EDIT: I see having mistakenly cited fellow ASR member as mentioning a song in comment #18 when it was in fact a different song they named.

 

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To me Argentina and Brazil music not only counts in passing but is Latin music.

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As for that cited "GOTAN PROJECT" the old Argentinian slang word for "Tango" is "Gotan". The Buenos Aires port (hence people from that city are still called "Porteños") attracted a criminal element which popularized rhyming slang with letter substitutions to talk openly without being understood; this became what is called "Lunfardo". With the centrality of the port neighborhood to the evolving suggestive dance of Tango the "lunfardo" jargon called it Gotan.

Gotan Project are an interesting crossover - those of us involved in the Melbourne Tango scene had been following Gotan Project for some years when they came down under for a concert.... the concert hall was primarily filled with hiphop fans, with the Tangoista's being a small majority.... but when Gotan Project opened the stage for audience dancers to freely tango on the stage, the hip hop fraternity were notably absent!

Great band and music... as both a dancer and a listener.

 

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[Soandso]

And don't forget this one!

"Donald Duck" voice was by Clarence Nash. "Panchito" the sombrero wearer's voice was Mexican Joaquin Garay. And the Parrot "Joe Carioca" was the Brazilian whose own nickname was "Zé Carioca" (José do Patrocínio Oliveira, born 1904)

Zé Carioca got the role after he came to the USA with Brazil's Carmen Miranda and Aloisio de Oliveira among others in her retinue (1939). Walt Disney befriended A. Oliveira bringing him in as what I'll call an assistant musical director, who in turn promoted Zé Carioca for the character voice of the parrot. Interestingly the movie's female dancer was Aurora Miranda, the younger sister of Carmen Miranda whose stateside career had gone stratospheric.

 

[Soandso]

Cal (Callen Radcliffe) Tjader, jr. (1925-1982) was the USA born son of Swedish parents and not as many assume, like I did for years, a Latino. Here's my latin jazz playlist of his recordings:

 

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Tish H. is Texas born Leticia Hinojosa who's now about 70 years old. She's been honored by the Texas Songwriter Association as a member of their Music Legends Hall of Fame.

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Pianist Irving Fields recorded at least 6 "… Bongos" albums. There were quite a number of additional Latin take-off albums released. He recalled in his autobiography "The Pianos I Have Known" having a trio during WorldWar 2's Armed Forces Special Service whose drummer brought out his bongos. Once out he teamed up with Musician's Union members the bassist Henry Senick and the drummer Michael Bruno who also played the bongos. Their gig at N.Y.C. 56th St. Crest Room caught RCA's Latin Department head and led to quite a bit of success as he
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LOL in Yiddish a "Lantzman" is someone from the same hometown.... fantastic - thank you for pointing me to these!

 

[dlaloum]

Some youtube links to favourites to facilitate "tasting"...

 

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Gotan Project are an interesting crossover - those of us involved in the Melbourne Tango scene had been following Gotan Project for some years when they came to down under for a concert.... the concert hall was primarily filled with hiphop fans, with the Tangoista's being a small majority.... but when Gotan Project opened the stage for audience dancers to freely tango on the stage, the hip hop fraternity were notably absent!

Great band and music... as both a dancer and a listener.

LA BOCA ("The Mouth") neighborhood of Buenos Aires port was Tango's breeding ground when there were lots of Genovese (Italy) people among a collection of Greeks, Turks and people from what we until recently called Yugoslavia. I have the idea early Tango entailed a lot more passionate contact than since popularized.

 

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LA BOCA ("The Mouth") neighborhood of Buenos Aires port was Tango's breeding ground when there were lots of Genovese (Italy) people among a collection of Greeks, Turks and people from what we until recently called Yugoslavia. I have the idea early Tango entailed a lot more passionate contact than since popularized.

I don't know the historical geography/demographics of Buenos Aires, but much like New York, it was also a center of Jewish Ashkenazi migration, refugees escaping the pogroms of tsarist Russia and later the Holocaust and Soviet Russia...

This included lots of Jewish musicians, classical and folk/klezmer, who then contributed to the melting pot from which fertile soil Tango grew....

In the Ashkenazi Jewish / Yiddish centers of Europe in the 1930's, Tango was one of the primary popular dance styles.... just as it was across the world (I love hearing Turkish, and Algerian Tango's as well as Yiddish ones - the underlying rhythms and styles of Argentina, themselves already a melting pot, further influenced by local stylistic variations and instruments!)

Or taking the blending further - Turkish Tango in Yiddish!

The boundaries of "Latin Music" may be getting stretched here - we have global influences moving into Argentina, generating Tango in the late 19th and early 20th century, the style takes the world by storm, and the whole world ends up dancing Tango by the 1930's...with every region then adding its own twist to the style.... at what point is it then no longer "Latin" if at all?

 

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Cal (Callen Radcliffe) Tjader, jr. (1925-1982) was the USA born son of Swedish parents and not as many assume, like I did for years, a Latino. Here's my latin jazz playlist of his recordings:

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He was more Californian than anything, haunting clubs in San Francisco after WWII, where he onwed a club for a while. Anyway, seems to me the term 'Latino', since it has long ceased to refer to a tribe of people descended from the B.C.-era Latini of central Italy (and after centuries of colonization of the new world), has little to do with historical descendance, but it is an identity one chooses or an upbringing one inherits, much like 'American'. It is also heavy marketing. His discography is vast and amusingly, some of peak tracks (I think) are Latin jazz played in an Asian style (Breeze from the East, Several Shades of Jade) from the mid 60s are superb. Also, don't overlook The Prophet. Does it matter his historical heritage?

 

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So there's Post-CUMBIA music coming out of Mexico now long after Cumbia became very popular there. Cumbia traces to Colombia's Caribbean side with originally just drums, a "maraca" rattle and extra long hollow cardón cactus flutes using a feather quill for the reed set into a mouthpiece fashioned out of bees wax stiffened with powdered wood charcoal. There'd be 2 flutist with one playing melody and the other harmonizing. Cumbia spread popularly since 1930s and I really liked the standard Mexican Cumbia a girlfriend used to play.