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Latest Guttenberg Video talks about measurements

Why he talks about measurements? Did he ever did some?

He is that type of guy where i would be scared to lend a multimeter. ;)



Hey i just wanted to measure Ampere and than i had a shortcut. What shit you lend me?
 
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A guy who listens to EDM and has not used a subwoofer until recently does not strike me as the great conosseur he thinks he is.

Darko? KEF?


Note he also listens using headphones so would be getting closer to full range. I’m sure he gets along ok. He also reviews speakers of various frequency ranges some going quite low. As I mentioned in another thread I listen to lots of Electronica/EDM/Funk/disco and didn’t find my subwoofers necessary to enjoy that music.

BTW as for the digs on these reviewers, I don’t see why Darko’s review of that KEF subwoofer isn’t perfectly serviceable and informative as an introduction to the product.
(Which many viewers appreciated - and the video production quality is quite well done all things considered)
 
Darko? KEF?


Note he also listens using headphones so would be getting closer to full range. I’m sure he gets along ok. He also reviews speakers of various frequency ranges some going quite low. As I mentioned in another thread I listen to lots of Electronica/EDM/Funk/disco and didn’t find my subwoofers necessary to enjoy that music.

BTW as for the digs on these reviewers, I don’t see why Darko’s review of that KEF subwoofer isn’t perfectly serviceable and informative as an introduction to the product.
(Which many viewers appreciated - and the video production quality is quite well done all things considered)
In that very video he states that it is his first subwoofer. His first, I insist...

In that video there is nothing I couldn´t find in KEF´s website. Joe´n Tell at least gave measures.
 
Gutenberg's preferences are as good as yours or mine. Amir's recommendations are predictable and do not depend on the source listened. That's no small difference.
Steve has listened to thousands of components I have not had access to. His experience makes him a good reviewer (or "influencer, if you will). I don't always agree with him, but he's good at what he does. Also, he knows me well, so when I ask him about speakers that he's reviewed positively, he sometimes tells me: "I don't think you'd like it."
 
I haven’t watched any of his videos but is there any equipment Steve doesn’t like?
Keith
Steve has been very clear about why he doesn't review products he doesn't like. He has turned down countless products from designers/manufacturers that he otherwise likes after he's heard them. I don't want to speak for Steve, but I'd like to speak up for him. He's genuine and a good "people person" who knows how to maintain friendly relationships, so it's rare when a manufacturer takes permanent offense when Steve turns down a potential review.
 
In that very video he states that it is his first subwoofer. His first, I insist...

I already addressed that.

Yes he expresses delight in how the subwoofer filled out the KEF LS50s he often uses. Not surprising in a subwoofer review. But it's not like he's unfamiliar with low frequency extension. As I mentioned he does a lot of headphone listening so he would be quite familiar with the low frequency content in his favourite music. And he'd previously reviewed for instance active speakers by Buchardt, Dutch & Dutch, the Kii Audio Three...all of which have quite deep bass extension.

Since there is low frequency information in many if not most genres of music, you may as well say that someone can't be a "real" informed enthusiast unless they had a subwoofer, which seems like more of a strange purity test. Classical music for instance often contains bass frequencies most aren't getting in their home system. My father-in-law is a classical music fanatic, huge library, extremely knowledgeable. But his speakers aren't full range. No sub. It would be silly for me to attempt to deny his passion and knowledge of the genre "because he isn't using a subwoofer."

This seems more a desire to take a dig at a subjective reviewer than a cogent criticism.



In that video there is nothing I couldn´t find in KEF´s website. Joe´n Tell at least gave measures.

Anyone can read manufacturer specs and claims about their gear. Darko gave what people came to hear: a general guide to the use of subwoofers for those who may not be so familiar, the KEF in particular, and most importantly, people come to see his presentation of a user experience - what it was like using the gear, setting it up, dialing it in, the subjective effects of the subwoofer paired with different LS50 versions, the effect of using the high signal connection vs low/high pass crossover filtering, what in the end he preferred, etc.

One can always say "he didn't offer anything informative" if...well...you ignore, or don't care about, the type of information he offered. And, the comment section shows plenty of people - all of whom could read the KEF literature themselves - got a lot out of his review.
 
I forgot to respond to this excellent comment.

All very well put.

I can appreciate how well you did in the video. It's not easy to be "perfect" with the mic and video on.

I've been on some (minor) podcast/youtube vids doing debates and I had to overcome an initial terror of public speaking, so I appreciate how well you formed your thoughts on camera.


As with free will (another controversial point I brought up), the conscious part of the brain is not in control, and yet pretending we can trust our consciousness helps get us through the day.

Hoo-boy, it would be fun to go through a lotta beers in the bar discussing Free Will. (I've done podcast debates on the subject - I'm a rascally Compatibilist).

Cheers.
 
Steve has been very clear about why he doesn't review products he doesn't like. He has turned down countless products from designers/manufacturers that he otherwise likes after he's heard them. I don't want to speak for Steve, but I'd like to speak up for him. He's genuine and a good "people person" who knows how to maintain friendly relationships, so it's rare when a manufacturer takes permanent offense when Steve turns down a potential review.
He has [allegedly] turned down countless products....

Until he names just one product he didn't like and give his reasons for it, his statements need to be taken with a grain of salt. He even listed a product's smell as being a reason he won't review it - really? Has anybody ever complained of a hifi component smelling bad out of the box? He's reviewed products from pretty much everyone so seems like he does a good job of building bridges, not burning them.
 
I forgot to respond to this excellent comment.

All very well put.

I can appreciate how well you did in the video. It's not easy to be "perfect" with the mic and video on.

I've been on some (minor) podcast/youtube vids doing debates and I had to overcome an initial terror of public speaking, so I appreciate how well you formed your thoughts on camera.




Hoo-boy, it would be fun to go through a lotta beers in the bar discussing Free Will. (I've done podcast debates on the subject - I'm a rascally Compatibilist).

Cheers.
You don't need beers to know that free will is the ignorance of conditioning factors.

Steve has listened to thousands of components I have not had access to. His experience makes him a good reviewer (or "influencer, if you will). I don't always agree with him, but he's good at what he does. Also, he knows me well, so when I ask him about speakers that he's reviewed positively, he sometimes tells me: "I don't think you'd like it."
I do not doubt his experience, I doubt its replicability.

I also do not doubt his good faith, I simply have a deep skepticism about aesthetic credentials, his or anyone's.
 
He has [allegedly] turned down countless products....

Until he names just one product he didn't like and give his reasons for it, his statements need to be taken with a grain of salt. He even listed a product's smell as being a reason he won't review it - really? Has anybody ever complained of a hifi component smelling bad out of the box? He's reviewed products from pretty much everyone so seems like he does a good job of building bridges, not burning them.
You might be surprised about the products he's turned down. (He's told me about a few that surprised me.) In any case, although all his reviews are overall positive, he does try to compare every product with a few others that he has in-house -- and he's not shy about pointing out strengths and weaknesses. I think that's very helpful. He does a better job of that than the vast majority of subjective reviewers.
 
You don't need beers to know that free will is the ignorance of conditioning factors.

LOL.

I'm glad you settled that old philosophical chestnut so easily. :rolleyes: ;)
 
You might be surprised about the products he's turned down. (He's told me about a few that surprised me.) In any case, although all his reviews are overall positive, he does try to compare every product with a few others that he has in-house -- and he's not shy about pointing out strengths and weaknesses. I think that's very helpful. He does a better job of that than the vast majority of subjective reviewers.
Damned with faint praise.
Keith
 
Spinoza did centuries ago. His words, not mine.

He was one of a long line of incompatibilists who argued against a Libertarian theory of free will. Not exactly new - versions of Libertarian/Incompatibilist/Compatibilist theories have been batted around for thousands of years, metaphysical and physical. Compatibilists argue against Libertarian free will on essentially the same grounds as the incompatibilist. But the claim that libertarian free will "IS" the definition of free will, and that Free Will is incompatible with determinism isn't accepted by compatibilists. It's the beginning of the Free Will debate, not the end :)

*orders another beer*
 
He was one of a long line of incompatibilists who argued against a Libertarian theory of free will. Not exactly new - versions of Libertarian/Incompatibilist/Compatibilist theories have been batted around for thousands of years, metaphysical and physical. Compatibilists argue against Libertarian free will on essentially the same grounds as the incompatibilist. But the claim that libertarian free will "IS" the definition of free will, and that Free Will is incompatible with determinism isn't accepted by compatibilists. It's the beginning of the Free Will debate, not the end :)

*orders another beer*
There is no other condition beyond the material world. Pretending to not be completelly bound by it is a wonderful proposition, but simply impossible. You cannot pull a Munchausen on the world.
 
There is no other condition beyond the material world. Pretending to not be completelly bound by it is a wonderful proposition, but simply impossible. You cannot pull a Munchausen on the world.

Ok, but that is again a claim against a Libertarian Theory of Free Will. Which I would reject as well. What does that have to do with compatibilist theories of Free Will? Which...as the name suggests...hold that Free Will is compatible with our being part of a determined, physical system, our choices as determined as any other combination of atoms in the universe?

I infer you aren't too familiar with the alternative theories, and so are begging the question. The problem for Free Will arose as soon as people started thinking about it - whether you were a Greek Philosopher considering the chain of causation, or a Deist or Theist worried about the implication of God's omniscience/omnipotence for our freedom. Libertarian/Incompatibilist/Compatibilist theories arose as different people tackled those problems. But...this isn't the place to get too far astray on this.
 
So the latest episode of Steve Guttenberg YouTube channel is a talk that Steve did at AXPona mostly not interesting at all - but one of the audience asks him about measurements :


and while he doesn't mentioned @amirm by name - its pretty certain he is talking about ASR and @amirm - there is even a challenge laid down - that he doesn't think the "unnamed person" he is talking about could fill a room like this. Sounds like a challenge we could try and beat - could we fill a room with a 30 minute talk from @amirm - I would hope so.
 
So the latest episode of Steve Guttenberg YouTube channel is a talk that Steve did at AXPona mostly not interesting at all - but one of the audience asks him about measurements :


and while he doesn't mentioned @amirm by name - its pretty certain he is talking about ASR and @amirm - there is even a challenge laid down - that he doesn't think the "unnamed person" he is talking about could fill a room like this. Sounds like a challenge we could try and beat - could we fill a room with a 30 minute talk from @amirm - I would hope so.
Astrologers can sell more books than astronomers.
 
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