Lamenting the lack of good quality budget A/V Preamplifier/Processors

[Vacceo]

https://www.nubert.de/nuxinema-preav/a040686 This might be an option. Just launched. Their room correction sadly isn't that good it seems, but it does have Atmos and corresponding speakers it can control wirelessly.

Only 6 channels?

 

[kadajawi]

Only 6 channels?

No, 7.1/5.1.2 I believe. There's another 8 wireless channels, though IIRC the maximum is 12 (between physical and wireless channels). You need to use their speakers for the wireless channels though (and only the newer models with XS in the name).

 

[withoutsuit]

https://www.nubert.de/nuxinema-preav/a040686 This might be an option. Just launched. Their room correction sadly isn't that good it seems, but it does have Atmos and corresponding speakers it can control wirelessly.

Jup, I've already ordered on, directly after the live event on Thursday. Maybe I'm able to send it to Amir?

 

[pseudoid]

Jup, I've already ordered on, directly after the live event on Thursday. Maybe I'm able to send it to Amir?

This Nubewrt nuXinema preAV ($900US?) seems something that I have been searching for, to handle the HDMI and eARC streams, separate from an "audio only" pre/DAC.
Unfortunately, my eyes are illiterate to do German language; even after requesting "English" version of the page.

 

[voodooless]

This Nubewrt nuXinema preAV ($900US?) seems something that I have been searching for, to handle the HDMI and eARC streams, separate from an "audio only" pre/DAC.
Unfortunately, my eyes are illiterate to do German language; even after requesting "English" version of the page.

Yes, it does support eARC.

In many ways, it looks like the box from Canton:

Smart Connect 5.1

www.canton.de

But with the added height channels. I still think it's expensive for what you get. Feature-wise, these things are extremely limited. I wonder how good the pre-outs are...

 

[Roland68]

The Canton Box is significantly cheaper, but only has 6 physical pre outs for 5.1.
The Nubert Box has 8 physical pre outs for 5.1.2.
Both are wirelessly expandable up to 7.1.4.
Another difference is the 192 kHz/24 bit of the Nubert box to the 96 kHz/24 bit of the Canton box.
I would find a test at ASR very interesting.

 

[voodooless]

The Nubert Box has 8 physical pre outs for 5.1.2.
Both are wirelessly expandable up to 7.1.4.

But only with with the brands speakers? Or any WiSa speakers?

You can hook up other active speakers with a adapter:

nuConnect trX hier kaufen | Nubert

nuConnect trX jetzt bei Nubert entdecken! Hochwertig verarbeitet ✓ Lieferzeit 1-3 Werktage

www.nubert.de

Another difference is the 192 kHz/24 bit of the Nubert box to the 96 kHz/24 bit of the Canton box.

I couldn’t care less.. 48 kHz is fine

These small boxes would be nice to connect to a pro-audio interface and have a PC do multichannel Dirac and crossover duties.

 

[withoutsuit]

. I wonder how good the pre-outs are...

According to the live stream, the technican said it will have very very good preouts with 4v capable. So we'll see.

 

[withoutsuit]

But only with with the brands speakers? Or any WiSa speakers?

You can hook up other active speakers with a adapter:

nuConnect trX hier kaufen | Nubert

nuConnect trX jetzt bei Nubert entdecken! Hochwertig verarbeitet ✓ Lieferzeit 1-3 Werktage

www.nubert.de

Only with their Speakers, no Wisa. The adapter is the stereo trx, I assume they launch a multichannel trx in the middle future. But yes, you can use the existing trx for using with any other speakers, but remember you need two of them (because the preamp supports the new multichannel trx, so you have to plug one stereo trx to preout as a sender and one to your speakers as receiver).

 

[withoutsuit]

This Nubewrt nuXinema preAV ($900US?) seems something that I have been searching for, to handle the HDMI and eARC streams, separate from an "audio only" pre/DAC.
Unfortunately, my eyes are illiterate to do German language; even after requesting "English" version of the page.

Yes, the nuXinema. If you have questions, then ask - I can translate.

 

[pseudoid]

According to the live stream, the technican said it will have very very good preouts with 4v capable. So we'll see.

Hope it is much better than the performance of the MonoPrice BlackBird @amirm reviewed few months ago.

...because the preamp supports the new multichannel trx...

Better than the MonoPrice BlackBird 3.5mm jacks for multichannel.
If/when fully released, the nuXinema preAV hopefully will be ready for HDMI v2.1 for future proof-ness!

 

[Chrispy]

What does ARC stand for to you?
It means Advanced Room Correction or similar to me so I still don’t understand how your setup has anything to do with Room Correction. Thanks.

Anthem Room Correction? I hadn't heard of Advanced Room Correction before, but an acronym can only be as popular as it's use and Audio Return Channel is the king of the heap for that one.

 

[withoutsuit]

Unfortunately, it only has HDMI 2.0, HDCP2.2 (4k at 60fps)

 

[pseudoid]

Anthem Room Correction? I hadn't heard of Advanced Room Correction before, but an acronym can only be as popular as it's use and Audio Return Channel is the king of the heap for that one.

Audio Return Channel used in HDMI to pass-thru the audio back to the processor/receiver/etc. The "eARC" is the newer Enhanced version!
I just rely on the optical out from the TV (to my AVpre/pro) but connectivity is an issue and the optical is more responsive than ARC (imho).

 

[Chrispy]

Audio Return Channel used in HDMI to pass-thru the audio back to the processor/receiver/etc.

Yep that one seems to be the most used for the acronym, altho the latest version is eARC (which can do lossless multich codecs, whereas ARC couldn't).

 

[voodooless]

Only with their Speakers, no Wisa. The adapter is the stereo trx, I assume they launch a multichannel trx in the middle future. But yes, you can use the existing trx for using with any other speakers, but remember you need two of them (because the preamp supports the new multichannel trx, so you have to plug one stereo trx to preout as a sender and one to your speakers as receiver).

Really? That doesn’t make sense. I would expect that you can use multiple trx’s with this thing to connect legacy speakers without needing the pre-outs.

I’m pretty sure they use WiSa internally. The RF frequency bands used match and it makes sense to use technology that already exists rather than reinventing the wheel. The 192 kHz sample rate doesn’t really match this, but that could just be a marketing gimmick, doe they use two sets of radios to double the bandwidth.

 

[voodooless]

According to the live stream, the technican said it will have very very good preouts with 4v capable. So we'll see.

Have a link?

 

[withoutsuit]

Have a link?

 

[withoutsuit]

Really? That doesn’t make sense. I would expect that you can use multiple trx’s with this thing to connect legacy speakers without needing the pre-outs.

Well, as I said, this TRX Standard is completely new and just evolving. They've just releases the XS8500, now the preamp, the wirelessatmosspeaker (ceiling/wall/hanging options with light) will follow soon. I'm pretty sure, that compatible TRX Receivers show up next year.

 

[voodooless]

Well, as I said, this TRX Standard is completely new and just evolving. They've just releases the XS8500, now the preamp, the wirelessatmosspeaker (ceiling/wall/hanging options with light) will follow soon. I'm pretty sure, that compatible TRX Receivers show up next year.

Ah, wait, TRX is the competitor of WiSa. That makes more sense now. It looks like the stereo version is not compatible with the surround version (of what they call X-connect (surround)). Very confusing Let's see how it evolves...