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Lab Gruppen FP 10000Q 4-Ch Amp Clone Review

Rate this amplifier:

  • 1. Poor (headless panther)

    Votes: 73 56.2%
  • 2. Not terrible (postman panther)

    Votes: 50 38.5%
  • 3. Fine (happy panther)

    Votes: 5 3.8%
  • 4. Great (golfing panther)

    Votes: 2 1.5%

  • Total voters
    130
A comparison to the original amp would be very interesting! Has nobody one around?
I owned it at the time I did active Live Mixing to power my little PA - was always reliable and sounding good, would imagine the original has at least not the strange behaviour of the 2nd channel and better channel separation. But sold plenty of years ago as you got good prices for these.
I still own an even older 4-channel LAB for monitor speakers ... working without a single problem ever. But also pretty loud fans, they all have.
 
There are plenty of points of concern:

- Those noisy fans might be replaceable. I modded my Yamaha and replaced the stock fans with Noctuas, now it is silent unless you stick your head next to it.
There are many people that bring a NOISY fan piece of gear home and get so angry about the noise that they forget that there are much quieter fans that can be installed in place of the noisy ones.
The proliferation of quiet fans that are now available are another blessing (that few think of [because: well, they are quiet]) that are a result of the home use game computing industry.
 
breaker tripping. So bypassed the power strip and used the AC outlet directly (20 Amp). This allowed me to sweep 4 ohm to clipping:
At some point before my occupancy (likely when it was built, in the early 1970's [as it only had a 100 amp service breaker box]) in my modest (1100 sq. feet) city home had no breaker less than 20 amps.
I have since (with the assistance and oversite of a Union Certified electrician) converted to a 160 amp service breaker box and continued with additional 20 amp circuits. There is no AC outlet in this home that is less than 20 Amp. A great thing for the kitchen, with the many more counter top things that draw current in that area these days.
I will say that the ones for the kitchen and bathrooms were expensive but they are the most likely to involve a life and death situation, so I want to offer these
8 pieces of advice (there are of course other things to consider. I feel that these are of primary consideration.):

Don’t Ignore GFCI Protection

Safety First

Ground Fault Circuit Interrupters (GFCIs) are required in bathrooms to protect against electrical shock, especially in wet areas.

Never skip installing GFCIs near sinks, showers, or bathtubs.

Don’t Use Non-Waterproof Outlets

Protect Against Moisture

Bathrooms (and kitchens) are prone to moisture. Always install waterproof or water-resistant outlets to prevent electrical hazards caused by moisture seeping into outlets and switches.

Don’t Overlook Outlet and Switch Placement

Keep Away from Water

Place outlets and switches safely away from water sources, like sinks and showers, to reduce the risk of electrical shock and ensure safety and code compliance.

Don’t Use Inadequate Wiring

Choose the Right Materials

Bathrooms require wiring rated for damp environments. Inadequate wiring can result in electrical failures and long-term damage.

Don’t Forget to Label Circuits

Future Maintenance

Label all circuits in your electrical panel to avoid confusion during future maintenance.

This makes it easier for you and your electrician to troubleshoot issues or make upgrades.

Don’t Fail to Separate Circuits for High-Power Devices

Dedicated Circuits Needed

High-power appliances like heaters, blow dryers, and heated floors should have their dedicated circuits.

Combining these with other circuits can cause overloads.

Don’t Mix Lighting and Power Circuits

Safety and Load Distribution

Keep lighting circuits separate from power-hungry devices.

This ensures even load distribution and minimizes the risk of electrical issues.

Don’t Forget to Plan for Future Needs

Think Ahead

When adding new circuits, plan for future upgrades.

Consider adding extra outlets for features like heated mirrors or towel racks, which may be added later.
 
There is no AC outlet in this home that is less than 20 Amp.
Same here. When we did our major remodel, I asked my electrician that everything but 12 gague/20 amp circuit. He said his installers will be grumpy since heavier wire is harder to pull but the incremental cost was not much. We do have dual 200 amp panels for total of 400 amps to go with it. I didn't mean to ask him to run lights with 12 gauge but they did that too! With all the bulbs now being LED, it is a total waste but that's what it is.

The 20 amp runs have really come in handy with audio testing that I had not anticipated to ever do! :)
 
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