Klipsch Heresy or JBL 4309

[Pareto Pragmatic]

This is the Cornwall replica, but it costs me 1500 euros. I'm worried that the speaker will sound worse than a Heresy IV.

The biggest factor will be the crossover, and how it works with the new drivers. I am not sure if the crossover is designed for the new drivers or if it is to original spec, so I can't say.

People love the cornwalls, if you have space they are a good choice. A large enough room, and space to set them up.

Forte is supposed to be the value speaker in this line, from those who have heard many types and are talking value for money. For what that's worth.

The Heresy is like all Kiplish speakers very bright and sounds on first sight more detailed because of that, but it's very fatiguing to the ears on high volume.

They are only bright if your hearing is not degraded. Being old helps!

The 4s are much different than the 1s. But very V shaped voicing, with elevation in the 1500-2000 range and boosted high frequencies.

BTW, the original tweeters in the 1s roll off very early, like starting at 10k. So they are both bright and not bright, in different ways.

Best I can do with EQ for the Heresy 1s is to get the general curve flat and let the heresy coloration be what it is. So flat with spikes up here and there.

I do think the scooped out middle is an issue for AV, even for people who like Klipsch for music. Dialogue being the reason. Which is why JBL would be my choice for mixed use.

I do still listen to my modified heresies for music, when I want a vintage sound for vintage music played not very loud. Particularly if I want a "live music in 1960" sound. It usually takes me a while to get used to them though, like 30 minutes or so. Then when I switch back to Ascend Sierra LX (very neutral), it takes me a little time before they stop sounding "dull".

I do enjoy the classic Klipsch sound, really. I have an irrational desire for La Scalas. But even with that, I started out searching for new speakers with "Anything but Klipsch" as a rule. I much prefer them as a snack, not as a regular diet.

 

[Buddelbaby]

Kit with high-end crossover

Our high-end kit contains high-quality ClarityCap capacitors, and in important signal paths even ClarityCap ESA capacitors:

• ClarityCap PWA capacitor 56 uF / 160 Vdc

• ClarityCap ESA capacitor 2.7 uF/630 Vdc

• 2x ClarityCap ESA capacitor 4.7 uF/630 Vdc

• ClarityCap ESA capacitor 8.2uF/630 Vdc

• ClarityCap ESA capacitor 10 uF/630 Vdc

• ClarityCap ESA capacitor 22 uF/630 Vdc 1.0 mm air coil, 0.18 mH/0.19 Ohm

• 1.0 mm air coil, 0.27 mH/0.23 Ohm

• Core coil, 2.7 mH/0.24 0hm

• 1.4 mm core coil, 3.9 mH/0.22 0hm

• 2x metal oxide resistor MOX10 15 Ohm (brown-green-black)

Metal oxide resistor MOX10 22 Ohm (red-red-black



These crossover components are installed in the Clonwall. No idea if they are good? And if they fit the chassis that was installed (see my previous post)?

I think I'll just have to decide between the Heresy IV and the Clonwall. I have enough space even if it's only a 21 sqm room. I often listen loudly and I think the impedance would be better with the Klipsch speakers. I find the Clonwall very impressive, but whether it can match the Heresy IV in terms of sound is a mystery... However, I'm saving 500 euros on the Clonwall compared to the Heresy IV. Can anyone say anything about the components and the crossover, can it sound good or would I prefer the Heresy IV?

 

[Pmsalsa]

Hello,

I have both the 4309's and HDI-1600's here to compare. I power them with a Lyngdorf TDAI-1120 and have a SVS SB-2000 subwoofer to complement the low end. I measured my in-room response with REW and a Umik-1 microfoon to correct for any FR inconsistencies. Both speakers als very close, but the HDI-1600's sound a little more forward, where the 4309's are a bit more relaxed with better separation between instruments and sounds. Both sounds very dynamic and lively. In my room a subwoofer isn't overly necessary (there is massive room gain around 35Hz), but it's sure is nice to have for some electronic music. Mind you, al experience is are based on what I here in my room and I can't say anything about the Heresy's, as I haven't heard them. From what I know and read, they don't measure as nice as the JBL's (to put it mildly), but they might be just what you seek ;-)

Hi! I’m in the search and the hdi 1600 and the 4309 are in my list (r200/silver 100 7G/q concerto meta too). My room is about 4x4 metres. Jazz/soft rock/blues/r&b/soul/bossa nova/house/funk my kind of music. In your opinion wich is the diferences between this two models? I think the pulp paper of the 4309 will sound more warm. I will connect them to a fosi v3 stereo and other vintage option (akai am 2450, 45 old watts).
I hope in the next two monts will have the oportunity of listem all them.
Thanks for your help and recomendations, sorry for my english!!