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Kimber RCA Cable vs Amazon Basics (Video)

To counter some bias against the test , test subject should not for example be aware that the test is about cables , just simply a choice, is this different from that.
No why and how and any details disclosed to the testers.
Yeah that's a good point!
That mystery person might argue that bias would somehow still effect the test, though. Probably via some underlying sub-conscious process.
 
Maybe Phi testing us right now, he did say the users shouldn't know that they're being tested.
Does that apply to reviewers too? Does that mean all reviews are invalid if the reviewers went in knowing that they are doing a review?
 
Looking up PhiDelicLabs leads to a number of dead ends, but I do recall one of the messages on the Substack post that got cleaned out shortly after PhiDelicLabs appeared to have split the scene. It mentioned that the posts at the Substack were written with the aid of AI, which might help explain the sheer doggedness of PhiDelicLabs posts, not to mention the level of scientific understanding they display.
 
Looking up PhiDelicLabs leads to a number of dead ends, but I do recall one of the messages on the Substack post that got cleaned out shortly after PhiDelicLabs appeared to have split the scene. It mentioned that the posts at the Substack were written with the aid of AI, which might help explain the sheer doggedness of PhiDelicLabs posts, not to mention the level of scientific understanding they display.
An AI troll made up by someone ? interesting ? successful in wasting everyone's time .
 
An AI troll made up by someone ? interesting ? successful in wasting everyone's time .
I'm wondering if PhiDelicLabs is from Kimber, since I recently sent a message to Kimber to share the ASR test...
But I don't want to sound paranoid ))))
 
Looking up PhiDelicLabs leads to a number of dead ends, but I do recall one of the messages on the Substack post that got cleaned out shortly after PhiDelicLabs appeared to have split the scene. It mentioned that the posts at the Substack were written with the aid of AI, which might help explain the sheer doggedness of PhiDelicLabs posts, not to mention the level of scientific understanding they display.
Tokes leading to tokens in ASR posts? We gotta have a token AI in the thread, just to show how inclusive we are. Even though he made me want to go all taxi driver "You token to me? You token to me?"
 
Nice to see video review, I like video reviews more.
Thanks @amirm
Follow up video to my text review and comparison of Kimber KS1036 "high-end" RCA cable vs ultra low cost Amazon Basics:


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I love your videos, Amir! Could you test or try UGREEN RCA cables? They’re affordable and seem to be good quality. I want to buy Amazon RCA cables, but since I live in Southeast Asia, the shipping cost is very expensive. UGREEN is one of the few brands available here that’s both cheap and looks good, but I’m not sure if it’s actually worth it.
 
Follow up video to my text review and comparison of Kimber KS1036 "high-end" RCA cable vs ultra low cost Amazon Basics:


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I love your videos, Amir! Could you test or try UGREEN RCA cables? They’re affordable and seem to be good quality. I want to buy Amazon RCA cables, but since I live in Southeast Asia, the shipping cost is very expensive. UGREEN is one of the few brands available here that’s both cheap and looks good, but I’m not sure if it’s actually worth it.
 
I love your videos, Amir! Could you test or try UGREEN RCA cables? They’re affordable and seem to be good quality. I want to buy Amazon RCA cables, but since I live in Southeast Asia, the shipping cost is very expensive. UGREEN is one of the few brands available here that’s both cheap and looks good, but I’m not sure if it’s actually worth it.
This is the product page from Amazon in the US. The reviews would indicate they are well-built cables.
Assuming there is no product differentiation between countries, it seems that UGreen cables should be fine.
You could wait for Amir to test them, but that may take some time

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This is the product page from Amazon in the US. The reviews would indicate they are well-built cables.
Assuming there is no product differentiation between countries, it seems that UGreen cables should be fine.
You could wait for Amir to test them, but that may take some time

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Thanks a lot for the information. Since I’m in Thailand, the price on Amazon for RCA cables plus shipping goes up to around $30, so I’m looking for a more cost-effective and good-quality alternative.
 
Thanks a lot for the information. Since I’m in Thailand, the price on Amazon for RCA cables plus shipping goes up to around $30, so I’m looking for a more cost-effective and good-quality alternative.
I completely understand. Save your audio money for something important like better speakers :)
 
If an ABX test returns a null result, it only proves that no difference was detected under those specific conditions. It does not prove that a difference does not exist in the signal path. We should be looking at how we can evolve these testing methods to reduce the cognitive load on the subject rather than just falling back on 40 year old citations to justify a simplified model.
If a difference cannot be proven in an ABX, test it means that any possible present differences are not relevant at all. If you can't hear them, why bother about their existence from an audio point of view?

This discussion is very theoretical anyway. Let's first make sure that all manufacturers apply ABX-tests to prove their claims, then start discussing all subtleties involved in these tests.
 
If a difference cannot be proven in an ABX, test it means that any possible present differences are not relevant at all. If you can't hear them, why bother about their existence from an audio point of view?

This discussion is very theoretical anyway. Let's first make sure that all manufacturers apply ABX-tests to prove their claims, then start discussing all subtleties involved in these tests.
I suspect mr PhilDel ( whoever he really is ) is not participating in good faith he seems to sling walls of AI text at us and don’t substantiate any of the claims .

He never answers this logical fallacy.
Even if one could find some kind of issue with controlled tests, which you surely can do if you nitpick at it.

The alternative can not be to not have any controls at all ? As sighted test has way bigger problems .

Especially with such low levels of differences.

I can use uncontrolled testing to see if i have a broken speaker. But as you literally diving into the noise floor its gets more and more unreliable vs the biases at play here.
 
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