Kimber KS 1036 Silver RCA Cable Review

[babadono]

My $0.02...buy the Amazons(or equivalent) give the rest to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, shelter the homeless. Or put the money where it will make a difference in your sound...buy better speakers.

 

[testp]

i love the effect of this.

Can you hear the difference? Yes - if not....maybe your system or hearing isn't revealing enough. you can't lose

 

[babadono]

I guarantee after you spend that kind of coin you WILL hear a difference

 

[G|force]

"I know expectation bias and conformation bias exists, it is real. However...."

 

[kemmler3D]

Amazingly the best value upgrade I have done for many years was 3m of ethernet cable from my router to my streamer, it was £30 improved musical flow, detail retrieval whilst also sounding smoother and also gave bass more 'interest & texture'.

This is literally impossible, so no it didn't. Data transmission over ethernet does not work that way, nor does digital audio in general.

Analog audio cables, in extreme cases, can theoretically change audio tonality in subtle ways. Digital cables simply can't, not even in extreme cases. If ethernet did work this way, you would be experiencing pervasive and catastrophic data transmission errors every time you did something online.

You're experiencing placebo effect. It happens to people everywhere, constantly. It is not a mark of lack of experience or listening acuity, it's simply how hearing works.

Refusing to accept this is very common. Heard differences due to placebo effect are convincing, they do not seem ephemeral or uncertain at all. Still, I promise you you'll end up happier with a heavier wallet if you are willing to consider this effect was not real in the sense of originating with the equipment.


I am not suggesting you didn't hear what you heard - you did hear it. But the cause is simply misattributed.

 

[G|force]

Nobody is immune.
The key is to know and embrace that fact.

 

[CtheArgie]

I like bass with interest and texture. Now I have to find out what that means…

 

[Mnyb]

My $0.02...buy the Amazons(or equivalent) give the rest to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, shelter the homeless. Or put the money where it will make a difference in your sound...buy better speakers.

Yes buy real products from real companies that employees real engineers to do real engineering that might yield real results

Better for society as a whole to .

 

[Ropeburn]

I like bass with interest and texture. Now I have to find out what that means…

I have the perfect solution for you.

 

[Ajax]

To be fair, the performance is great. Inaudible degradation of the signal.
Doesn't mean the value is great too.
So, it depends on how you view the poll.

Yeah, I get it, view it upside down.

Come on, one of the aims of this site for me, and most members, is to find excellent gear at a reasonable price, this ain't one of them.

 

[Orion76]

I can get a 17" subwoofer that puts out 2800 watts RMS and weighs in at 165 pounds for $3000, or this cable for $4500.

 

[Rick63]

I can get a 17" subwoofer that puts out 2800 watts RMS and weighs in at 165 pounds for $3000, or this cable for $4500.

Yep, when someone puts things in perspective like that it's just nuts!

 

[Madlop26]

I will never understand the target demographic for these kinds of items.
Smart enough to get rich // Dumb enough to fall for snake oil.

Yes, it's a contradiction... in my opinion, it's more a personality trait. Even the smartest people can make really poor decisions, especially if you think you know better than anyone. Look at Steve Jobs delaying his cancer treatment because he thought he knew better than modern medicine.

 

[Ropeburn]

I can get a 17" subwoofer that puts out 2800 watts RMS and weighs in at 165 pounds for $3000, or this cable for $4500.

I like your awfully fitting avatar and the absolute truth you spit. Brother in spirit. Snake oil product, or 10 moneys cable feeding a neighbourhood exploder? Easy choice.

 

[UK Sugden Fan]

You're 74, you'll have trouble hearing anything properly at all, let alone differences between cables, DAC and amps.

And without controls, any bets are off.

I know this:-

It's very easy to set up a double blind listening test that makes it almost impossible to reliably hear differences.
You just make sure that the audience is feeling slightly uncomfortable and under pressure to perform, then play unfamiliar music changing samples frequently ensuring the 'subjects' are almost getting a bit of a handle on that sound before another sample.
These tests are completely unrelated to how people listen to music for pleasure - ie. in a relaxed atmosphere and able to let the music flow over them.

True there are some people who think they have to be able to hear every detail and end up with bright systems which probably bring on listening fatigue, but that's not all of us.

 

[Mort]

To be fair, the performance is great. Inaudible degradation of the signal.
Doesn't mean the value is great too.
So, it depends on how you view the poll

Aren't we supposed to ignore price?

 

[RHO]

Yeah, I get it, view it upside down.

Come on, one of the aims of this site for me, and most members, is to find excellent gear at a reasonable price, this ain't one of them.

Oh, I'm with you. I voted "waste of money" too.
But I could see why someone would vote "great" purely on performance metrics.
You see the same with DAC and amplifier reviews. The cut-off where a product becomes too expensive to be worth it, is purely subjective and personal.

 

[RHO]

Aren't we supposed to ignore price?

There is an option "waste of money". That would suggest price has to be taken into account for this one.

 

[UK Sugden Fan]

The entire industrial world relies on our understanding of cables. How do you reckon that is true yet we don't understand how they work?

No it doesn't, and the vast majority of us don't understand cables. I suspect most people designing cables don't understand them.
The part of industry that makes audio cables relies on us either:-

a) believing lies, often called snake oil.

or

b) hearing differences and judging for ourselves.

or

c) being drawn into believing that if it looks expensive with lots of bling then it's probably worth it!

 

[amirm]

No it doesn't, and the vast majority of us don't understand cables.

How do you know this? How does everything around you work when they use cables in all manner of devices?