Kimber KS 1036 Silver RCA Cable Review

[srkbear]

Would you say most physicians perform research?

Nah, not most. Many participate in clinical trials. Academic physicians do a lot of research, and there are many non-practicing docs who work in industry research. But the majority of biomedical research, especially bench, is conducted by PhDs (as I have been rightfully corrected). None by Kimber Kable! Back to the topic…

 

[webmst007]

So George decided he wanted to go further with the testing and so here is the first day of the project.
George has begun by bringing his able assistant Alice in to the world's first Canine Double Blind Testing Project.

The full results will, of course, be published in the Canine HiFi Magazine but I can give you a summary here.

Background - As we know our favourite companions do have the best hearing ever !

So since this is ASR what test report would be complete without a graph?

The Results :

In Summary in full testing ( Double Blind ) the only difference between the speaker cables George and Alice could detect was one cable actually tasted better than the other when chewed.

Music Used:
A lot of people have asked what testing methods George uses. Well all I can tell you is testing is tricky and secret - but what I can share is the music George and Alice have on their playlist.

Mozart's Ramble in the Woods (K634) for Dog Whistle and combined Squeaky Soft Toys.
Their particular favorite performance is the Deutsche Grammophon 1996 pressing of the Berlin Dog Park Orchestra live performance conducted by Herbert Von Canine.

Beethoven's Fur Ball Und Zoomies Opus 769 For Quartet (Double Bass, Viola, Violin, and Dog Whistle). Performance by The Kruf's Quartet (2004) (RCA Records).

I don't think George has time to join the ASR moderators now with the Canine HiFi Magazine being so popular.

So I'll post his next test results summary soon................................

 

[Mugdim]

I'm not a fan of buying cheap cables like 1 euro per meter, but... The other day I bought a cable on Temu, measured it with a regular multimeter and got 0.9 ohms, after subtracting the resistance of the cables themselves from the multimeter. Of course I returned it, because I don't need a resistor between the DAC and the amplifier.

Does the tested cable really contain enough grams of silver to compensate for its value, if so, then I think it's worth it, because the prices of precious metals are going up!

 

[RetroStereo]

Does the tested cable really contain enough grams of silver to compensate for its value, if so, then I think it's worth it, because the prices of precious metals are going up!

Silver, gold and platinum are all great conductors; but pure copper is no slouch. A properly made copper cable where the wire is of sufficient gauge and is properly insulated, shielded and attached to quality connectors of the appropriate geometry for your needs may not be cheap but it need not be expensive, either.

Two of the most respected wire manufacturers in the entire "professional" audio industry - the industry making the recordings of artists, bands and orchestras that you will be playing on your audio system at home - are Mogami and Canare. Three of the most trusted connector manufacturers are Amphenol, Neutrik and SwitchCraft. There are many, many sources of audio system cables using these reliable products that do not charge exorbitant prices. One such manufacturer is WBC (World's Best Cables) available through Amazon and elsewhere. There are also a number of online sites that cater to audiophiles by making up custom configurations using these quality products. And, while slightly more expensive than WBC, they are still very reasonable in price. And you're getting a cable that exactly meets your needs.

My point is that we should NOT be encouraging the snake oil cable industry. They prey on ignorance, gullibility, and FOBLO (fear of being left out). Or, maybe bragging rights: my cable is more expensive than your cable. They should be run out of business by our boycotting their products.

I don't know or care how much silver is in snake oil cables. However much there actually is in their products, it is still a scam intended to separate the consumer from his money for an entirely worthless "upgraded" product. The fact that it may work is beside the point. Its existence is based on lies and pseudo science with the sole intent of scamming the consumer.

 

[amirm]

I'm not a fan of buying cheap cables like 1 euro per meter, but... The other day I bought a cable on Temu, measured it with a regular multimeter and got 0.9 ohms, after subtracting the resistance of the cables themselves from the multimeter. Of course I returned it, because I don't need a resistor between the DAC and the amplifier.

You can't easily measure such low resistance value. You need higher voltage meter and very careful termination of 4-way kelvin leads. I am very doubtful that the actual resistance was nearly 1 ohm in any reasonable length for hifi use.

 

[Palladium]

Surely I'm not the only one chuckling at paying 4 grand on anything unbalanced, let alone cables?

 

[RetroStereo]

Surely I'm not the only one chuckling at paying 4 grand on anything unbalanced, let alone cables?

The one that really gets me roiling is the $5K replacement AC power cable. It's purely insane that anyone would have the chutzpah to put such a thing on the market and those who actually buy it should be committed just to protect themselves from themselves.

 

[Mnyb]

I'm not a fan of buying cheap cables like 1 euro per meter, but... The other day I bought a cable on Temu, measured it with a regular multimeter and got 0.9 ohms, after subtracting the resistance of the cables themselves from the multimeter. Of course I returned it, because I don't need a resistor between the DAC and the amplifier.

Does the tested cable really contain enough grams of silver to compensate for its value, if so, then I think it's worth it, because the prices of precious metals are going up!

Inconsequential for a signal cable

 

[solderdude]

You can't easily measure such low resistance value. You need higher voltage meter and very careful termination of 4-way kelvin leads. I am very doubtful that the actual resistance was nearly 1 ohm in any reasonable length for hifi use.

Yes, with a multimeter this isn't as easy as most people might think, certainly not for speaker cables.

0.9 ohm for the signal wire in an RCA cable is not problematic ... even when it were real.
Resistance could be a problem (when leakage currents are present) when the screen is that high resistance.
I have seen a few 'RCA interlink cables' that did not even have a screen but just 2 thin wires in parallel.
0.9ohm/meter would be unusually high anyway so measurement error is very likely.

Just grabbed a generic RCA cable (1.5m, the one with white, red and yellow for video) and signal wire measured 0.43 ohm, just like the 'screen' did.
I don't even need to cut the cable to deduct there is no real screen but just a wire (thrown it in the bin just now).

Another cheap one... 2meter = 0.21 ohm center, screen = 0.016ohm... don't have to bin that one... it has a screen.

Measuring speaker cables with some accuracy can be done by sending a current through it (lab power supply) of 1A or so and measuring the voltage drop over the wire (not at the same spot where the current source clamps sit).
With the voltmeter in 200mV DC setting you can measure accurately in the milli-ohms.

 

[Mugdim]

Yes, I didn't know enough about signal cables after all. A couple of your answers made me read up on the topic of resistance and whether it matters. Thanks for that.

The second part of my text was just a joke.

 

[wadude]

This article explores the silencing of fact based journalism and commentary by advertising based sites/publishers and the use of similar techniques in the political world. It also promotes the work done here at ASR and how its approach of building a new population of audiophiles based on awareness is more effective than simply focusing on converting believers.

https://medium.com/@skikirkwood/truth-lies-and-fraud-in-the-audiophile-world-ten-years-later-f6105fc7b8f6

 

[prerich]

I rather think it is the system which enables the wilfully ignorant to become wealthy enough to purchase such bling is at fault. How do such people accumulate such wealth?

You're so correct....it is the SYSTEM that enables, not only enables but encourages the ultra wealthy to flaunt it.

 

[wadude]

I rather think it is the system which enables the wilfully ignorant to become wealthy enough to purchase such bling is at fault. How do such people accumulate such wealth?

In their sleep.

 

[Robin L]

I rather think it is the system which enables the wilfully ignorant to become wealthy enough to purchase such bling is at fault. How do such people accumulate such wealth?

The old fashioned way—we steal it:

 

[TLEDDY]

Hey now, I looked this up because you made it sound so enticing. Frankly, it is a steal because it is on sale for only 77k (per two meters)! https://www.thecableco.com/royal-triple-crown-speaker-cable-pair.html

Siltech Triple Crown LS.
Yours for only 105 466 USD

HOLY S*IT!!!

Has anyone done ABX or Null tests?

 

[101geo]

Siltech Triple Crown LS.
Yours for only 105 466 USD

HOLY S*IT!!!

Has anyone done ABX or Null tests?

The price might make more sense if you bear in mind they are a "Full range" cable.

 

[voodooless]

The price might make more sense if you bear in mind they are a "Full range" cable.

As opposed to a too short cable?

 

[egellings]

I wonder how many of those have been sold.

 

[RetroStereo]

I think the company making them and anyone trying to sell them should be prosecuted for fraud.