Some speakers are just poor designs that only exist because of historical precedent.
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KEF Q350 Speaker Review
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But then that is a 3-way speaker! No 1000Hz leaking out from port.
This one was the finaly review that convinced me to buy the KEF Q150 in the first place.
FWIW I did the most important blind tests.. called WBT (Wife Blind Tests) and she picked the KEF over the Buchardt s400 in 75% of the times
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I wouldn't take his subjective impressions too personal
Although we can hugely value his experience and expertise, for subjective tests nothing beats your own ears listening to a pair of speakers for an extended period of times and trying different positions than amirm limited first impressions w/1 speaker listening tests.
Doesn't seem to help much the poorly designed 700 series...
They should rather work on their crossover...
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Their older models measure better, so the only explanation is that that is the intended house curve they are after.Doesn't seem to help much the poor designed 700 series...
They should rather work on their crossover...
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I think the b&w curve is a deliberate choice and not a failure .
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Doesn't seem to help much the poor designed 700 series...
They should rather work on their crossover...
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Although this series of B&W speakers leaves a lot to be desired, in this case I think the dip seen in the measurements is mostly attributable to the measurement having been taken on the wrong axis, and the crossover being at a very high frequency relative to the C2C distance between the drivers.
The 702 S2 was measured by Stereophile, who essentially found the midrange axis to be the design axis, not the tweeter axis:
EDIT: I take that back partially.
Obviously, neither axis is ideal, with a dip in the upper midrange swapping places with a dip in the mid-treble. Perhaps the optimum axis was somewhere in between (or perhaps the speaker is just a mess, lol).
Although this series of B&W speakers leaves a lot to be desired, in this case I think the dip seen in the measurements is mostly attributable to the measurement having been taken on the wrong axis, and the crossover being at a very high frequency relative to the C2C distance between the drivers.
The 702 S2 was measured by Stereophile, who essentially found the midrange axis to be the design axis, not the tweeter axis:
EDIT: I take that back partially.
Obviously, neither axis is ideal, with a dip in the upper midrange swapping places with a dip in the mid-treble. Perhaps the optimum axis was somewhere in between (or perhaps the speaker is just a mess, lol).
Which revealed even deeper 5kHz dip.
Agreed. None of both curves look good to me!
But it gets smoothed out off-axis:Which revealed even deeper 5kHz dip.
Still not an ideal design.
But it gets smoothed out off-axis:
Still not an ideal design.
To me it looks like 5kHz dip magically converts to peak.
Probably. But that doesn't excuse this terrible FR, even if it has been designed that way on purpose.
Probably. But that doesn't excuse this terrible FR, even if it has been designed that way on purpose.
I'm wondering what could be the purpose?
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Probably. But that doesn't excuse this terrible FR, even if it has been designed that way on purpose.
Instead of inexcusable I would say it’s its even a bigger crime if done purposely.
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I run these speakers in my quasi-vintage office system, but I use them basically as near-field monitors. Doubt I would even consider them for a main system.
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