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KEF Q350 DIY measurements and tweaks

Randolf

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The KEF Q350 is a bookshelf entry level 2 way ported speaker featuring the KEF SP 1709 coaxial driver. If often goes on sale and was now replaced with the very similar KEF Q 3 model adding KEF’s meta technology. These are my DIY measurements and tweaks for the Q350. You may find it interesting

None of these tweaks will bring the speaker to “the next level” or “turn it into something completely different” like other upgrades sometime promise. If you don’t like the Q350 in general at all it will not help, but if you like it but want it to sound a little bit less boomy, resonant, warm and little bit more analytical it may help. I mostly did it for fun and learning, especially to start looking into VituixCAD crossover simulation.

Port tuning

To me the most critical part of the Q350 is to get the bass response right in your room. If you need to place it close to a wall or corner and it sounds too boomy with the port open or half open but lacking deep bass with the port closed you can experiment with extending the port length. I used a 19cm peace of slotted pipe isolation from the hardware store (outer diameter ~6cm, inner diameter ~4.2cm) fixed with some duct tape and plugged it into the port about 5cm deep (which reduced the inner diameter a bit). To fine tune it I added a little bit polyester wool on the outlet of the tube and fixed with a rubber band.

Damping

There is little damping material in the Q350. Just 2 rolled up sheets of polyester wool. The rolls stick between the sidewalls. One role is located at the bottom and the other one located at the top (glued to the sidewall to not fall down and cover the port).

The Q350 sounds a little bit under damped, hollow, resonant, boomy or warm to me, so I added 2 sheets of polyester wool to cover the rear panel and added one more roll of polyester wool to the bottom.

Cabinet

The cabinet of the Q350 is really basic. It is made of thin 16mm MDF, with a 35mm sandwich front baffle with simple plastic veneer. There is one bracing in the middle running from left to right sidewall. Front and rear baffle are each connected with 4 triangular bars to both sidewalls. 2 more triangular bars connect the bottom to one sidewall.

To strengthen this rather lightweight construction I added 10 more triangular bars (47mm long cut from 18mm MDF):

  • 1 Bottom to Front
  • 1 Bottom to Rear
  • 2 Bottom to other sidewall
  • 1 Top to Front
  • 1 Top to Rear
  • 4 Top to both sidewalls
Furthermore I cut 3 178 mm x 27mm stripes of 18 mm MDF running in the middle of Top, Bottom and Rear panel to the sidewalls.

Crossover

The crossover of the Q350 is also very basic, a first order filter for woofer and tweeter and a single resistor to adjust the tweeter level, with entry level quality parts (0,957mH 0,4 Ohm ferrite coil inductor, 4,444uF foil conductor, 1,501 Ohm ceramic resistor). Anyway it achieves a pretty good summation of the drivers and at least it avoids electrolytic capacitors. But when looking at the individual driver response I noticed that the woofer plays up to 10 khz rather loud with peaks in the 7-10 khz region which the 1 order network cannot fully reduce so they show up a little bit even in the driver summation. So I decided to design a steeper 2 order rolloff for the woofer but with very similar summation result instead of just replicating the original crossover with higher quality parts. To me the audible difference to the original crossover in a short Mono A/B listening session is rather subtle.

The next picture shows the material (one speaker) for the above tweaks and the original crossover:


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For the measurement I used affordable DIY gear, a Focusrite 2i2 3 gen sound interface , self calibrated Behringer ECM8000 microphone, self build rotary table (https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0BLHHF15Z, https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0BYYN2ZM4), REW, VituixCAD and followed REW VituixCAD guide.

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To check how accurate this measurement and simulation really is lets compare Amir’s on axis measurement with my complete speaker and individual driver + VituixCAD crossover simulation:

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The blue line on top is Amir’s result, in the middle the measured result of the complete speaker with original (green) and new crossover (red). On the bottom you see the result of the individual driver measurement with VituixCAD crossover simulation. I am very happy with this result, it matches reasonably well with the professional measurment and the VituixCAD crossover simulation is very accurate.

Lets have a look at the on axis driver summation simulated in VituixCAD for some crossover designs:

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Feel free to download my VituixCAD data to investigate more. If you want to do your own measurement of individual drivers for VituixCAD crossover simulation I strongly recommend to carefully read the instruction.

I would suggest to test your measurement setup for correctly time aligned measurements once before executing all these many measurements. To do so, just perform an on axis 1m far field measurements of the entire speaker and all it’s individual drivers (with the crossover still in place) and apply a 4 ms time window to all measurements. Use REW trace arithmetic to sum all individual drivers measurements. If your setup is correct the summation should match the complete speaker measurement perfectly, if not you will see small or huge derivations especially in the crossover regions.
 
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So do you think it made a difference subjectively? It doesn't look like it from the measurements it would be detectable. Also what do you mean you had TWO rolls of polyfill? I only had one when I stuck a bore scope in mine. And actually I thought that it being rolled up was a mistake until reading this.

Given your familiar with the driver, I'm curious what you think about this idea I just had. I saw a Zenith Circle of Sound omnidirectional speaker (attached) on marketplace and I noticed it takes a the same size driver as my Q350s have. They've been collecting dust for over a year now and I want to do something with them. The Zenith is a full range driver but I was thinking of 3D printing my own version anyway with a vertically adjustable acoustic lens and a longer barrel so it has equal volume as the Q350 cabinet. Then I'd just migrate all the hardware of the Q350 over to it. I might just use that tacky glue stuff to hold it in place since gravity will be a tremendous help. Any thoughts about this?
 

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So do you think it made a difference subjectively? It doesn't look like it from the measurements it would be detectable. Also what do you mean you had TWO rolls of polyfill? I only had one when I stuck a bore scope in mine. And actually I thought that it being rolled up was a mistake until reading this.

Given your familiar with the driver, I'm curious what you think about this idea I just had. I saw a Zenith Circle of Sound omnidirectional speaker (attached) on marketplace and I noticed it takes a the same size driver as my Q350s have. They've been collecting dust for over a year now and I want to do something with them. The Zenith is a full range driver but I was thinking of 3D printing my own version anyway with a vertically adjustable acoustic lens and a longer barrel so it has equal volume as the Q350 cabinet. Then I'd just migrate all the hardware of the Q350 over to it. I might just use that tacky glue stuff to hold it in place since gravity will be a tremendous help. Any thoughts about this?

As described the crossover tweak had the smallest effect, I could only do a mono A/B direct comparision, maybe it becomes more obvious in Stereo.

KEF placed 2 polyfills rolls in the cabinet, one at the bottom

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and one at the top

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Just open the box instead of using the a bore scope .

I have litte expierence with truely omnidirectional speakers, only with with the Lowther Classic 400 (a predecessor of the Lowther Academy), which had a second rear fireing wideband driver and a DIY KEF / Dynaudio combination, which had an upward fireing KEF B110 B bass/midrange driver with dispersion cone above it (but it used a conventional direct fireing Dynaudio D 28 dome tweeter).

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However this is a very long time ago and especially the Lowther required carefully positioning in the room and in some rooms it didn't work well at all. Duevel is building some unususal omnidirectional speakers using various dispersion techniques, you may want to check out the website for inspiration.

I guess the frequency response of the Q350 driver in the zenith cabinet will be worth with audible coloration, but you may or may not like the wide soundstage some reflecting loudspeaker tend to have in some rooms.
 
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I opened the cabinet. 1 roll!! But I swear I have read it would be one roll.

I tried doing an image search with those gorgeous ones above and look what strange results I got.
 

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