spend the same, or a bit more to take an existing speaker as far as it will go
I see your point – will have to weigh cost for additional amplification and advantage in SQ against savings by doing Zvu‘s modest passive mod...
spend the same, or a bit more to take an existing speaker as far as it will go
You don't need to, but it's optimal if you want your subs and mains to blend properly. Of course everyone should try it both ways and do what sounds best to them, as mentioned I've done this and prefer to keep the ports open, YMMV.
Yes I mentioned twice now I use a 4th order high pass on the mains, with open ports.
That is a might big bold claim as I'm probably more sure than you that it would not measure better if at all than what the stock version has.I'm sure the Danny version would measure better.
Dave.
Sealed boxes have natural roll-of equal to 2nd order (nice article about that here) so no problem if you make it steeper with 4th order, and you will still get tighter upper bass with less distortion from mains.
But, of course, whatever rocks your boat is fine.
No, I'm not positive on that. I give Danny some credit as a decent practitioner with some decent practical experience. The reason I think his modification would measure better is because the stock one is so basic/cheap. Any decent crossover designer should be able to better the stock design with a more refined network.That is a might big bold claim as I'm probably more sure than you that it would not measure better if at all than what the stock version has.
The cost of the components doesn't correlate to measurable output quality though. If it did, Danny would be sending @amirm his mod speakers to be measured (for free) on a $100K rig that GR could only dream of having.No, I'm not positive on that. I give Danny some credit as a decent practitioner with some decent practical experience. The reason I think his modification would measure better is because the stock one is so basic/cheap. Any decent crossover designer should be able to better the stock design with a more refined network.
Danny has numerous other issues, but I think he's more than capable of parting together a simple crossover like this.
Dave.
I'm talking about the change in crossover design.....not necessarily the cost of his "audiophile-quality" components. Two different things.The cost of the components doesn't correlate to measurable output quality though. If it did, Danny would be sending @amirm his mod speakers to be measured (for free) on a $100K rig that GR could only dream of having.
The issue there is the "design" isn't correlated beyond very basic measurements that only show a very small part of what is happening. Polar Plots tell a much larger story so anything less is quite elementary in speaker design.I'm talking about the change in crossover design.....not necessarily the cost of his "audiophile-quality" components. Two different things.
Dave.
Danny did post some basic polar response measurements of his "design." You could question the accuracy/veracity of those results, I guess.The issue there is the "design" isn't correlated beyond very basic measurements that only show a very small part of what is happening. Polar Plots tell a much larger story so anything less is quite elementary in speaker design.
No interest in that...just stating facts.Danny did post some basic polar response measurements of his "design." You could question the accuracy/veracity of those results, I guess.
Regardless, it seems you want to get into an argument regarding Danny's speaker design prowess.....with me on Danny's side. I'm sorry, but I'm not your guy.
Carry on.
Dave.
In a previous thread on the S400 I stated that I had a damn good idea what the cause of the peaky/shouty issue was, the Bennic/Dayton caps. The upgraded crossovers in the SE proved I was correct. It also proves that crossover components do indeed matter...
Indeed every review I watched started with that and ended with "great imaging." In a live music venue, nothing comes out a single point source....
If you could help me with the meaning of the Pink Panther Postman I'd appreciate it. It seems to be applied to devices that work OK but with caveats.I doubt many casual visitors know what the panthers mean, they probably just skim down to the conclusion and read that, if they only get as far as the first image and base all their decisions on that then they are still getting more than they paid for.
I've no idea, maybe @amirm can explain.If you could help me with the meaning of the Pink Panther Postman I'd appreciate it. It seems to be applied to devices that work OK but with caveats.
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/asr-panthers.11541/If you could help me with the meaning of the Pink Panther Postman I'd appreciate it. It seems to be applied to devices that work OK but with caveats.
thanks very much! However the link does not include the postal panther. I hope it doesn't indicate our leader is going postal!