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KEF Q Meta is Coming

The white ones seem to have the same Ikea finish, which I don't really like.
 
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€1200 in EU which competes with the old R3 ( non meta) when it was on sale last year. Which would you choose?
 
€1200 in EU which competes with the old R3 ( non meta) when it was on sale last year. Which would you choose?
I would wait for measurements as it will depend on tuning and personal preferences. I guess the R will have advantages in higher SPL while the Q in wider radiation.
 
€1200 in EU which competes with the old R3 ( non meta) when it was on sale last year. Which would you choose?
I bought the old r3 demo last year for €895. It sounds very refined, but a bit bright (in my '59 years old' perception in the upper mids, for example with solo violins. large groups of violins on the other hand often sound amazingly beautifull and spacious) About a month ago I couldn't resist buying the r3 meta on sale for €1999 an I have no regrets. There is about nothing wrong with them ('w sub').

I would think the old r3 is better than the Q Concerto, but it also depends on the voicing, the degree of neutrality/accuracy of the Q Concerto, which the friendly KEF people know best:). And when you equalize, probably the old r3, but I don't know. Maybe the Q Concerto, Q7 and Q11 have a wider directivity. Edit: Like @thewas allready said
 
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Hi Opal, Rõlnnbacke,

Don't worry, the new Q Meta doesn't sound as good as R Meta. Besides, the R Series has a more robust construction, nicer finishes and higher maximum output.
The aim with Q series is to bring the best sound to as many people as we can. Our opinion on "the best sound" is a 3-way speaker. This is why it was a priority to bring this architecture to the Q Meta.
Just a curiosity on the LSX II: was metamaterial not included due to space or price constrains? Same question for using an 11th generation UniQ instead of a 12th.

That said, I´m glad to see that the Q series has ditched the radiators.
 
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Interesting the Q Concerto Meta have lower sensitivity and max SPL than the Q3 Meta. Likely has to do with the smaller tweeter/uni-q
4" mid-woofer + .75 Inch tweeter vs 6.5" woofer +1 inch tweeter.

The Uni-Q on the concerto/towers/center i'm guessing is derived from the LS60's or maybe even the same driver. It's likely a better driver but seems SPL limited, a common complaint on the LS60's.
 
Interesting the Q Concerto Meta have lower sensitivity and max SPL than the Q3 Meta. Likely has to do with the smaller tweeter/uni-q
4" mid-woofer + .75 Inch tweeter vs 6.5" woofer +1 inch tweeter.

The Uni-Q on the concerto/towers/center i'm guessing is derived from the LS60's or maybe even the same driver. It's likely a better driver but seems SPL limited, a common complaint on the LS60's.
It could also have to do with the bass being better in balance with the mid/treble with the Q Concerto and going deeper. And look at this:
Concerto:
Harmonic distortion (90dB, 1m)
<2% 37 Hz and above
<1% 91 Hz - 20 kHz

Q3:
Harmonic distortion (90dB, 1m)
<2% 110 Hz and above
<1% 135 Hz - 20 kHz

I find that more important; 90dB, 1m is rather loud(?).
 
Q Concerto was a smart move from KEF as the R3 were always best sellers, so they created a more affordable alternative still within their line.
 
It could also have to do with the bass being better in balance with the mid/treble with the Q Concerto and going deeper. And look at this:
Concerto:
Harmonic distortion (90dB, 1m)
<2% 37 Hz and above
<1% 91 Hz - 20 kHz

Q3:
Harmonic distortion (90dB, 1m)
<2% 110 Hz and above
<1% 135 Hz - 20 kHz

I find that more important; 90dB, 1m is rather loud(?).
Maybe,

Perhaps they didn't want to use the R series 5" Uni-Q and they likely wanted to find another use for their new 4" Uni-Q. The 4"Uni-Q is likely a better driver, I can't wait to see the compression testing with/without an 80hz crossover.

Price wise the Concerto is a direct competitor to the Elac Unifi Reference UBR62.
 
I'm looking forward to the white paper. I'm especially curious about how the drivers compare to the LS60 (& Ci250RRM-THX).

Our install is done, but the Q4 Meta looks like a great product to help build a multichannel KEF system. By specs, the Q8 Meta and R8 Meta seem very similar. I wonder how the driver & crossover in the LS50, R8m, Q4m, and Q8m differ.

As pointed out by others, I think the copper shorting rings are gone. It makes sense that the motor has to be simplified to meet a lower price point. I'm optimistic that in the real world these will be great and provide an achievable entry point compared to the R series.
 
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I think the Concerta will be a direct competitor to the R3 Meta. I mean, at 1200 bucks it better be good, even though the finishing is not up to par compared to the R3 meta. Like the Monitor Audio Bronze 100 is to the Silver 100.
 
I also like that they finally have an on-wall speaker with the Q4 Meta.
But why is it 250€ more expensive (or +45%) than the Q1 which uses the same drivers?
 
Interesting the Q Concerto Meta have lower sensitivity and max SPL than the Q3 Meta. Likely has to do with the smaller tweeter/uni-q
4" mid-woofer + .75 Inch tweeter vs 6.5" woofer +1 inch tweeter.

The Uni-Q on the concerto/towers/center i'm guessing is derived from the LS60's or maybe even the same driver. It's likely a better driver but seems SPL limited, a common complaint on the LS60's.
If the sensitivity of the Q Concerto is determined by the Uni-Q driver, then all models with this 4" Uni-Q driver should have the same sensitivity. In this case (and practically all cases) sensitivity is determined by the (mid)woofer.
 
If the sensitivity of the Q Concerto is determined by the Uni-Q driver, then the whole lineup should have the same sensitivity. In this case (and practically all cases) sensitivity is determined by the (mid)woofer.
it is (minus the 2-way bookshelf speakers)
Q7 Meta 87dB vs Q750 88dB
Q6 Meta 86dB vs Q650c 87dB
Not really comparable but the Q11 Meta 89dB vs Q950 91dB

The Q1/Q8, Q3 don't use the same Uni-Q as the Q Concerto/Q11/Q7/Q6
 
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