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Looks ok, and better yet for the price.
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Maybe ‘for their price’ they perform well, but you have to remember that the new KEF Q Concerto Meta cost almost as much as the KEF R3 Meta cost six months ago
KEF raised the prices of the R Meta models to make room for the new Q Meta
Those who bought the R3 Meta six months ago can be happy Today he will buy a ‘mere’ KEF Q Concerto Meta instead.I am curious to see the first comparison tests, how much worse the new KEF Q Concerto Meta is.
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See Erin's video... he compare them almost directlyMaybe ‘for their price’ they perform well, but you have to remember that the new KEF Q Concerto Meta cost almost as much as the KEF R3 Meta cost six months ago
KEF raised the prices of the R Meta models to make room for the new Q Meta
I am curious to see the first comparison tests, how much worse the new KEF Q Concerto Meta is.
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For me: R3 used: 1.000€
Not in the US they didn’t. R3 Meta has always been $2200 here, unless there was maybe a sale. A sale ending is not the same thing as the prices being raised.Maybe ‘for their price’ they perform well, but you have to remember that the new KEF Q Concerto Meta cost almost as much as the KEF R3 Meta cost six months ago
KEF raised the prices of the R Meta models to make room for the new Q Meta
I am curious to see the first comparison tests, how much worse the new KEF Q Concerto Meta is.
Can’t speak for other countries.
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Yes, I am talking about Poland, Europe. Do not how prices are / were on different markets.
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So I'm guessing a Denon X1700H would be underpowered right?
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dont know
but what i can says its avr , and avr are bad in hifi
1200 e its not cheap , not sure in font of q350 _r linton , or diamond 12 you will see difference on your denon
that step down on-axis would bug me, but otherwise it looks good. Odd that multitone distortion climbs the way it does around 2-500hz, maybe the motor structure of the woofer lacks a shorting ring?
Erin in the review says the tilt down on axis combined with very goood directivity index results in an exceptionally good in-room response for the price, which is what you're looking for. I wouldn't bother much about that multitone distortion, you will never hear it. The compression test results are also very good. You have a slightly less perfect R3 meta but with more extended base and easier highs. This is already a bargain, now imagine that for 300 bucks more you have a Q7 tower with even better bass extension and distorsion, can't wait it gets measured
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The Q Concerto is somewhat less sensitive. Without eq, I find the R3 really good and the R3 meta just that bit more accurate, neutral, uncouloured that I don't have any real urge to change anything about the sound (with sub, not even allways on). Voices, (classical/acoustical) music are really 'believable', 'just there'. And used, it can't even be two years old. So I would choose the R3 meta. I never heard the Q Concerto, but I guess it's really good, after watched Erin's review..
I wouldn't know - can it handle 4 ohm well, how loud do you listen (and what other speakers are you possibly going to connect simultanuosly, assuming that that matters)? I find the R3 (/metas) perfectly fine at moderate levels but that's maybe also because I'm somewhat grown up at 59. And possibly you have housemates/neighbours/ that would be happy when you have an amp that you consider underpowered.
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On-axis response both from Erin's videos:
Q3 Meta red
Q Concerto blue
And in-room response:
Q3 Meta red
Q Concerto blue
My personal opinion didn't change from seeing these measurements: Either cheap Q3(50) (Meta) or more expensive R-series. When a speaker passes $1000 bucks I also start to factor in build quality, and longevity. With regards to the R-series, and if considering the cost of the KEF stands, it's a short jump to R5 Meta. (They really made the up-sell path easy )
Q3 Meta red
Q Concerto blue
And in-room response:
Q3 Meta red
Q Concerto blue
My personal opinion didn't change from seeing these measurements: Either cheap Q3(50) (Meta) or more expensive R-series. When a speaker passes $1000 bucks I also start to factor in build quality, and longevity. With regards to the R-series, and if considering the cost of the KEF stands, it's a short jump to R5 Meta. (They really made the up-sell path easy
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These measurements make sense, I got the Q6 Meta as a center channel. and I found it really like muffled out the box, and it had a severely descending midrange and treble response in room for me. I think it has the same step down on axis for the midrange / Tweeter like the Q concerto, since they have the exact same driver combo.
The step down on Axis makes sense in an untreated room for music solely maybe. because my other Q speakers will get the flattening out and bump up in the treble in a bare room, but with room treatment the OG Q speakers have a perfect sloping down response, from taming the reflections.
Q950 from my front stage For example
While the Q6 meta will be too dark, so its something to consider.
The step down on Axis makes sense in an untreated room for music solely maybe. because my other Q speakers will get the flattening out and bump up in the treble in a bare room, but with room treatment the OG Q speakers have a perfect sloping down response, from taming the reflections.
Q950 from my front stage For example
While the Q6 meta will be too dark, so its something to consider.
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You've got 5-15dB extra in the bass between 20-100hz, that much extra bass even makes Genelecs sound dark, I think if you EQ the bass to be flat (maybe as much as +6 at 20hz) you will find it sounds neutral.
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You can ignore below like 100HZ, I was still tuning in the subwoofer. there was a massive peak at 30hz and too much of a rise The point was mostly just the 2khz and beyond region
IMO it's really smart having a sloped on axis + wide constant directivity = sloped in-room response in multiple seats of a home theater. Makes the Concerto + center great for a front trio.
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