KEF LS60 Wireless Just Announced

[EJ3]

If you set the output in the oppo to (L)PCM then you should be fine. The speaker can receive the signal over hdmi, toslink or electrical spdif.

I have been seriously looking into the LS 60 & you have answered one of my big questions about them. Thanks.

 

[Descartes]

I would send them in for repair I guess.
What are the odds of kef going bust or an amp failing after working correctly for 2 years?

That’s good to know, hopefully they will last for another ten years.

I used to have speakers that were twelve year old! Sold them and upgraded

My amplifiers are 20 years old and still running!

 

[Descartes]

I use my LS60 as LS/RS in my surround system and send the S/PDIF (via the AES/EBU outputs of my HAPI II). This runs from Jriver (with Dirac ART) and, using the channel routing options of Jriver and Merging's Aneman, LS60s (and/or other speakers) can exist comfortably in a multichannel system beyond 8 channels.

As for output levels, the addition of subwoofers not only extends the frequency response in the bass but relieves the 4 "bass" drivers in each LS60 of the demand for power output at their low end, permitting higher SPLs. Of course, simply going multichannel helps, too.

Have you completed your remodeling and reinstalled your three Blade 2 Meta? Would love to see pictures

 

[Kal Rubinson]

Have you completed your remodeling and reinstalled your three Blade 2 Meta? Would love to see pictures

Next issue.

 

[Descartes]

Next issue.

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[Purité Audio]

Stereophile.
Keith

 

[naagratrax]

I use my LS60 as LS/RS in my surround system and send the S/PDIF (via the AES/EBU outputs of my HAPI II). This runs from Jriver (with Dirac ART) and, using the channel routing options of Jriver and Merging's Aneman, LS60s (and/or other speakers) can exist comfortably in a multichannel system beyond 8 channels.

As for output levels, the addition of subwoofers not only extends the frequency response in the bass but relieves the 4 "bass" drivers in each LS60 of the demand for power output at their low end, permitting higher SPLs. Of course, simply going multichannel helps, too.

How do use Dirac Art with Jriver ?

I thought it wasn't available yet on pc ?

 

[Kal Rubinson]

How do use Dirac Art with Jriver ?

I thought it wasn't available yet on pc ?Reply

Not officially available. There are beta users.

 

[naagratrax]

Not officially available. There are beta users.

Oh great didn't know that
Thanks kal

 

[thewas]

What would be really annoying is an amplifier fail and you have to pack the whole speaker in a box and ship it.

If the electronics module interface is well designed with minimal amount of connectors and the company is cooperative someone could just unscrew, disconnect and just send the module. On the other hand though in our times where you need to warn people from hot coffee probably there would be too high risk of someone suing the manufacturer because he didn't disconnect it from power before and got an electric shock....

 

[EJ3]

If the electronics module interface is well designed with minimal amount of connectors and the company is cooperative someone could just unscrew, disconnect and just send the module. On the other hand though in our times where you need to warn people from hot coffee probably there would be too high risk of someone suing the manufacturer because he didn't disconnect it from power before and got an electric shock....

Before there were warning labels on everything, there were a lot less stupid people around: I'll bet that there is a correlation, something to do with Darwin & natural selection I think.
There are also a lot less people that can figure out a calculated risk (causing less of our people to be capable of figuring things out and less to be able to practice enough to just be capable in general). An example of what being able to calculate risk & practice to become successful at maximizing your capabilities (different people have different limits so this will be beyond most peoples limits. But without testing the limits of those warnings and being able to figure out the calculated risk factor, this would not be possible (and this type of thing is now part of the Olympics):

 

[terryforsythe]

With these highly integrated products, my main worry would be mid-term software compatibility issues. Say, Tidal or Spotify keep evolving their APIs or protocols. You can bet KEF is not going to keep device software up to date for eternity, eventually all you'll use are the digital inputs, probably.

An external streamer can be used if that ever becomes an issue. With mine I use a WiiM feeding a Raspberry Pi that provides room correction.

 

[EJ3]

An external streamer can be used if that ever becomes an issue. With mine I use a WiiM feeding a Raspberry Pi that provides room correction.

Or, you can run whatever you like (I do not stream but these, thanks to others here, I have found out, will do anything that I would want them to do (including integrating with my subs), should I choose them as my next speakers (I'm still using my great Dahlquist M-905's from 1991 & likely will for another year or so).

 

[Puddingbuks]

As for output levels, the addition of subwoofers not only extends the frequency response in the bass but relieves the 4 "bass" drivers in each LS60 of the demand for power output at their low end, permitting higher SPLs. Of course, simply going multichannel helps, too.

It also lowers distortion.

Without high pass:

With 80hz high pass:

 

[elvisizer]

With these highly integrated products, my main worry would be mid-term software compatibility issues. Say, Tidal or Spotify keep evolving their APIs or protocols. You can bet KEF is not going to keep device software up to date for eternity, eventually all you'll use are the digital inputs, probably.

you don't have to use kef's software to stream music.
really the only concern you have on software is if kef themselves stop supporting the speakers with their own app- you do have to use kef connect to switch inputs + configure the wifi connection . . .
but other than that I use the native streaming apps, not kef connect.

 

[pablolie]

..
but other than that I use the native streaming apps, not kef connect.

I am pretty sure the KEF software stack will have to keep up with the streaming apps' API... until it doesn't.

 

[Kal Rubinson]

really the only concern you have on software is if kef themselves stop supporting the speakers with their own app-

At that point, don't update the app.

 

[AOR]

you don't have to use kef's software to stream music.
really the only concern you have on software is if kef themselves stop supporting the speakers with their own app- you do have to use kef connect to switch inputs + configure the wifi connection . . .
but other than that I use the native streaming apps, not kef connect.

If you ever want to configure the network settings without using the app, you can directly connect via the web client. This will appear on the IP address the speakers are occupying. If the device isn't on a network, it will be broadcasting its own WiFi network. If it isn't, factory resetting will revert it to a state where it is broadcast it's own network.

 

[Mnyb]

If you ever want to configure the network settings without using the app, you can directly connect via the web client. This will appear on the IP address the speakers are occupying. If the device isn't on a network, it will be broadcasting its own WiFi network. If it isn't, factory resetting will revert it to a state where it is broadcast it's own network.

Web client ok, thanks for that

 

[kma100]

These wireless speakers should rely on a platform agnostic web page. Easier than maintaining an app for multiple OS's, and presumably easier to roll out (and roll back) enhancements.