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KEF LS60 Wireless Just Announced

Advanced-> Fast Roaming
Disabled “mesh technology” is the same I guess? Edit: no it is fast roaming, which I have disabled now. Have changed this and will report back.

The LS60 were connected directly to the main router of the internet provider, and now on the deco access points.
 
i did not manage to capture that in the pics the placement is not symetrical and there are large openings on the sides so side reflection are different and may not exist so much on one side and on the other it’s close to a cabinet.
the room is quite open to the sides .
so for some reas there was not that much solid phantom center with no toe in ?
maybe if pull them closer together .

but it migth be taste, on my previous Meridian speakers I always tweaked the treble down whole the time , they where bright .

either way it works for some reason when I dial in some bass eq I migth reconsider again :)
the ls60 is not very placement sensitive the tonal balance is very similar in a wide range of toe in out ?
As always, each room varies and just like food recipe's: ADJUST TO TASTE!
 
Am listening to the ls60. They're very, very good, among the best. And I mean that in an absolute sense, compared to all speakers I've ever heard, regardless of price. I got tears in my eyes on the first track.

The only limitation is spl output at very high levels and in very large rooms imo. I would never reach that but then again I don't listen at 96db or higher. More like max 85db in a room 5.5 meter by 8. And most times a lot quieter.

I think the ls60 are suitable for cinema sound. Though if you like your 20-50 hz bass effects at thx levels, I would recommend a subwoofer.

Comparing to give an idea how they sound
The Genelec 8351 ime and opinion is somewhat better at creating a "bubble" or round sphere of sound radiation; a point source due to the woofer configuration at the front. The kef ls60 is comparable in sound character (or lack of), but projects a wider image (more far field) than the genelecs and has a slight emphasis on the bass. I would expect the ls60 to be slightly better at filling a large room with sound due to more woofer area and power. And the genelec 8351 to be a better near/midfield monitor, due to pin sharp imaging. All these points are marginal differences really, and you best decide what is most suitable for yourself by trying them.
 
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Am listening to the ls60. They're very, very good, among the best. And I mean that in an absolute sense, compared to all speakers I've ever heard, regardless of price.

The only limitation is spl output at very high levels and in very large rooms imo. I would never reach that but then again I don't listen at 96db or higher. More like max 85db in a room 5.5 meter by 8. And most times a lot quieter.

I think they're suitable for cinema sound. Though if you like your 20-50 hz bass effects at thx levels, I would recommend at subwoofer.
Like the rest of the LS actives, which are fantastic (I have the LS50 WII), they lack two elements and a vanity third I'd love: expandabilily to multichannel (including decoding), room correction (these would be amazing with the option to add Dirac), and a set of app-controllable sources like a cd transport or a turntable.
 
Like the rest of the LS actives, which are fantastic (I have the LS50 WII), they lack two elements and a vanity third I'd love: expandabilily to multichannel (including decoding), room correction (these would be amazing with the option to add Dirac), and a set of app-controllable sources like a cd transport or a turntable.
For multichannel a hardware upgrade to Wisa would make most sense.

Room correction is available in the form of a slope up or down in bass and treble iirc. In theory peq should be possible with a software upgrade in the current ls60. Same goes for dolby decoding, but that costs extra money.
I would expect I could let my tv do the decoding and send stereo pcm to the speakers, though not multichannel.

Both wisa and dolby decoding options cost kef (considerable?) money I imagine. Leaving that to a multichannel avr makes more business sense, although I totally get your point and would be delighted with and willing to pay for a wisa dolby solution.
 
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I would expect I could let my tv do the decoding and send stereo pcm to the speakers, though not multichannel.
Eventually I'll have to have a TV to process music?
For some reason: that seems strange.
(I haven't owned a TV since 2007 but lately I've been thinking of getting one, maybe)
My desktop & it's 27" higher end (at the time) screen have been just fine in lieu of having a TV for my purposes
 
Eventually I'll have to have a TV to process music?
For some reason: that seems strange.
(I haven't owned a TV since 2007 but lately I've been thinking of getting one, maybe)
My desktop & it's 27" higher end (at the time) screen have been just fine in lieu of having a TV for my purposes
The speakers have multiple inputs, including hdmi, optical and spdif iirc. For music either input would be fine without a tv. Or just streaming directly to them.

My suggestion for a tv doing the dolby decoding came from the wish at post #2305 that the speakers would be able to do that. Same could be done in a bluray player or avr when watching movies.
 
For multichannel a hardware upgrade to Wisa would make most sense.

Room correction is available in the form of a slope up or down in bass and treble iirc. In theory peq should be possible with a software upgrade in the current ls60. Same goes for dolby decoding, but that costs extra money.
I would expect I could let my tv do the decoding and send stereo pcm to the speakers, though not multichannel.

Both wisa and dolby decoding options cost kef (considerable?) money I imagine. Leaving that to a multichannel avr makes more business sense, although I totally get your point and would be delighted with and willing to pay for a wisa dolby solution.
Wisa cannot go beyond 8 channels, so if you have atmos as standard, 11 channels plus subwoofers should be an option .

It could be done with RJ45 jacks and a switch to cover all channels, apply EQ in the digital domain and off you go. The current LS can be connected to each other by means of an RJ45, imagine using that element as the key to expand to more channels.

Room correction should be possible with hardware capable of applying a layer or Dirac to the existing DSP's on every speaker.

And for the sources, that is just something akin to a Cambridge CD or turntable with the implementation of an extension of the app as remote.

Since all those elements could be optional, the user could stay as it is now or add "slave" speakers and sources to the chain as desired.

Doable? Probably. Worth it in terms of development costs? No idea, probably not.
 
No question the LS 60 are amazing speakers, but the problem is when the amplification goes bad dealing with that is a real problem!
 
I would send them in for repair I guess.
What are the odds of kef going bust or an amp failing after working correctly for 2 years?
With these highly integrated products, my main worry would be mid-term software compatibility issues. Say, Tidal or Spotify keep evolving their APIs or protocols. You can bet KEF is not going to keep device software up to date for eternity, eventually all you'll use are the digital inputs, probably.
 
With these highly integrated products, my main worry would be mid-term software compatibility issues. Say, Tidal or Spotify keep evolving their APIs or protocols. You can bet KEF is not going to keep device software up to date for eternity, eventually all you'll use are the digital inputs, probably.
Now that is a valid point.
 
I would send them in for repair I guess.
What are the odds of kef going bust or an amp failing after working correctly for 2 years?
Same scenario: my 50's have been working fine for two years of daily use.
 
With these highly integrated products, my main worry would be mid-term software compatibility issues. Say, Tidal or Spotify keep evolving their APIs or protocols. You can bet KEF is not going to keep device software up to date for eternity, eventually all you'll use are the digital inputs, probably.
Then add a wiim or another cheap streamer via an digital input. What would be really annoying is an amplifier fail and you have to pack the whole speaker in a box and ship it. With compact speakers not that much an issue, but with floorstanders I would hate that
 
The speakers have multiple inputs, including hdmi, optical and spdif iirc. For music either input would be fine without a tv. Or just streaming directly to them.

My suggestion for a tv doing the dolby decoding came from the wish at post #2305 that the speakers would be able to do that. Same could be done in a bluray player or avr when watching movies.
So my oPPo 205 UDP should be fine to do this with, should I ever decide to do so, correct?
 
Then add a wiim or another cheap streamer via an digital input. What would be really annoying is an amplifier fail and you have to pack the whole speaker in a box and ship it. With compact speakers not that much an issue, but with floorstanders I would hate that
It's an annoyance and the main reason I plan to buy from a dealer close to my home.
 
Then add a wiim or another cheap streamer via a digital input. What would be really annoying is an amplifier fail and you have to pack the whole speaker in a box and ship it. With compact speakers not that much an issue, but with floorstanders I would hate that
Yep that’s why I bought the bookshelf KEF LS50 WII and added a sub!
 
I use my LS60 as LS/RS in my surround system and send the S/PDIF (via the AES/EBU outputs of my HAPI II). This runs from Jriver (with Dirac ART) and, using the channel routing options of Jriver and Merging's Aneman, LS60s (and/or other speakers) can exist comfortably in a multichannel system beyond 8 channels.

As for output levels, the addition of subwoofers not only extends the frequency response in the bass but relieves the 4 "bass" drivers in each LS60 of the demand for power output at their low end, permitting higher SPLs. Of course, simply going multichannel helps, too.
 
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