I would l always keep the two KC62. If you want more power and extension, just add one or two larger ones. Subs don't have to be identical. But do get a mic, and get some dsp room eq system. That will transform the sound. If you are reluctant to get very technical, the DSpeaker X2 is the easiest option.
-
Welcome to ASR. There are many reviews of audio hardware and expert members to help answer your questions. Click here to have your audio equipment measured for free!
Yes not at the same time of courseit con do 11hz at some puny level and 110dB at at much higher frequency ? Have someone done proper measurements ( Erin ? ) maybe it cannbe deduced from there ?
I read somewhere that 11 Hz, -3 dB (Room EQ) was mentioned in their white paper as a room reinforced measurement, not anechoic. Even my old Sunfire TS ii can achieve a measurable response down there like that, so I don't doubt what they claim in controlled conditions. But yeah, those not read in like those here, could easily lump the peak output to go along with that level of extension.
Punchy_Power_Cat
Member
- Joined
- Apr 18, 2023
- Messages
- 92
- Likes
- 55
Those three DSP modes that KEF invented (Wall, Midroom, Corner), are those of any use if you're going the miniDSP route anyway?
I'm not willing to invest that much money, but that's on me. Only curious if the cone is that stiff, as they dismissed the grille.
soerenssen
Addicted to Fun and Learning
- Joined
- Jul 25, 2023
- Messages
- 566
- Likes
- 136
Depens on what you're looking for, it's subjective. Also what you want to pair it with. In my case, it is nicely matching the white color of my R6 Meta, but in a naturally lit environment you will quickly spot the difference when compared to the warmer white color of my Ref 3 Metas.
I'm not sure that the KEF warranty is transferrable to someone else though, so better check it upfront (even though it was originally purchased in November 2024 so the first year is almost gone), especially since it contains electronic components.
Thank you very much.
I currently have XTZ 12.17 edge in black but will be moving soon and my girlfriend does not like the look of it at all.
So I'm looking for a more aesthetically pleasing alternative
An alternative for these dual driver KEF subs would be the stylish dual driver Bowers and Wilkins subs. They look very elegant, particularly in a modern interior. One of my three subs is the earlier PV1d and am happy with it in the most visibly obvious location. The other two are a good looking but relatively larger Kef Kube8b and an ugly SVS SB2000 classic, hidden behind one of my Quad electrostats.
Do you know how they compare to the Kefs?
One of them was tested by a contributor here in a test with a number of different subs. It scored rather well. I am afraid I cannot find the test, but I am sure somebody with a better memory can. The dual driver B&W subs come in various sizes, but I assume their quality will be similar, with the larger ones with more output and extension, of course. remember, subwoofer sound quality is largely a mattter of room integration.
Last edited:
Here it is: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/i-measured-10-subwoofers.49042/ it was for the single driver DB4s model.
The Kube MIE 15” is on sale for $999 right now, which I consider a fair price.
Problem is, it is just too big and heavy for my 60 yo body to safely unpack and move around. Plus, it is butt-ugly.
If they knocked $500 off the KC-92, I’d probably go for it and finally get rid of my mid-aught era, near 4 ft high SVS bazooka. I can’t safely lift and move that one around anymore, either. Still works, though - but a little too slow and boomy for music.
I have KEF R7’s, and so far have been doing ok with music sans sub, and 20 yo old SVS bazooka for movies and music in Atmos. But need to get a new sub that integrates better for 2 ch music soon.
Problem is, it is just too big and heavy for my 60 yo body to safely unpack and move around. Plus, it is butt-ugly.
If they knocked $500 off the KC-92, I’d probably go for it and finally get rid of my mid-aught era, near 4 ft high SVS bazooka. I can’t safely lift and move that one around anymore, either. Still works, though - but a little too slow and boomy for music.
I have KEF R7’s, and so far have been doing ok with music sans sub, and 20 yo old SVS bazooka for movies and music in Atmos. But need to get a new sub that integrates better for 2 ch music soon.
- Joined
- May 31, 2020
- Messages
- 997
- Likes
- 1,813
Slow and boomy?
How do you integrate the subwoofer in your setup?
www.audioholics.com
With my LS60’s, my SVS PC2000 pro sounds fabulous, integration via the LS60 is super easy and sounds great.
How do you integrate the subwoofer in your setup?
Ten Nonsense Myths About Subwoofers and Bass Busted!
There are as many myths in the audio industry as are written in the pages of a Tolkien novel. With that in mind, Audioholics is taking on the task of myth busting ten bass myths that are nonsense!
www.audioholics.com
With my LS60’s, my SVS PC2000 pro sounds fabulous, integration via the LS60 is super easy and sounds great.
One of my three subs is a Kef Kube 8b and I think it is actually rather elegant in our modernist interior compared to many subs. The previous version of the Kube 10b scores rather well in the Sweetchaos survey. Inevitably a smaller sub with the performancce of a larger one will be more expensive. The KEF Kube series is a cheaper series that still performs well, but in a larger format. There is no free lunch. If you are really interested in something smaller, I would recommend two smaller ones. They will give you much of the output of one big sub, but with a smoother response and over a wider listening area. Add dsp room eq and you have really good sound quality.
Quick question on KC92 crossover setting: i find conflicting information on what its crossover setting should be when set up with an av receiver. The manual states it should be set to LFE while other sources and users have it set to the highest setting. Does setting the crossover knob to LFE actually mean no crossover is active in the subwoofer?
Attachments
- Joined
- Jun 24, 2024
- Messages
- 2,925
- Likes
- 5,225
The manual is correct. That's what the LFE setting is for.
Correct, it should mean that the internal crossover (LPF, really) in the subwoofer is bypassed which is what you want if the AV receiver is handling crossover duty. You don't normally want another LPF behind the crossover.
EJ3
Master Contributor
Exactly why I run a pair of DIY 4 Ohm 12" ported (tuned to 29 HZ) subs with 1+KW RMS a channel. I don't have to also run a power cord.
EJ3
Master Contributor
I'm in a single house in the US, my living room is about 1/2 yours and is immediately open (no interior wall at all except for around the toilet/linen room) to the dining room/kitchen.We actually have a house . Living room with the subs and LS60 is aprox 5.5m*3m 17 sqm ( 2.4 meters in heigth ), but with large openings to other areas of the house which is fairly open and some walls and roof construction is a bit lossy I sit 2.7 meters from the speakers who are 2.4 meters apart .
This is medium sized living room in sweden
The whole home (including the [out door patio, deck, shower labyrinth room and utility room {washer/dryer & water heater room}]) is 102.19 square meters.
In my previous home: the living room was approximately 1/2 the measurement of the whole of this home.
So, it varies. But these are stand alone homes, on their own piece of land.
But, I am living on the water (with no one else within 1/2 a kilometer):
It ain't pretty but showing off has never been what I do best, anyway.
Last edited: