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KEF Ci3160RLM-THX In-Wall Speaker Review

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This is a review and detailed measurements of the KEF Ci3160RLM-THX in-wall home theater speaker using their meta materials. It is on kind loan from a member and costs US $2,230 (each).
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The Ci3160RLM-THX, unlike many in-wall speakers, looks quite nice without its grill so I chose to test it that way. Construction is by far heavier duty than any in-wall speaker I have tested. We are talking about drivers encapsulated in solid steel together with brackets sporting the same:
KEF CI3160RLM-THX THX Certified Ultra in-wall speaker high-end back side bracket review.jpg

The thing is so heavy that I had to get help to lift it up for measurement! It is designed so that it could be bi-amped if needed.

If you are not familiar with my Klippel NFS tests, please watch my video on Understanding Speaker Measurements:


KEF Ci3160RLM-THX Speaker Measurement
As usual we start with our anechoic measurements, assuming there is an infinite baffle (wall):
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I must say, I was not prepared to see such an excellent on and off-axis response! Other than a minor hiccup around 260 Hz, this would be a great measurement for any speaker, let alone an in-wall product.

Note: that dip may be due to resonances of the baffle we put the speaker in. So while it may happen with drywall/plaster as well, it is not directly the fault of the speaker.

Sensitivity is higher than average to boot (by 1 to 2 dBs). Our model for interpreting speaker preference is based on stand-alone speakers, not in-wall. But here, those results are so excellent that I decided to show them:
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Amazing that such results can be achieved with a passive speaker of this type.

Good news doesn't stop there. As you can imagine, good engineering courtesy of that coaxial design pays dividends in the form of directivity control:
KEF CI3160RLM-THX THX Certified Ultra in-wall speaker horizontal beam width measurement.png

[I have grayed out the areas that don't apply as sound doesn't radiate behind the speaker].
KEF CI3160RLM-THX THX Certified Ultra in-wall speaker horizontal directivity measurement.png


Vertical dispersion is narrower so you want to stay close to the tweeter axis:
KEF CI3160RLM-THX THX Certified Ultra in-wall speaker vertical directivity measurement.png


During distortion sweeps, I could just detect something odd at 101 dBSPL. We can see the reason why in comparing relative distortions:
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That hump is a bit exaggerated due to a dip in frequency response in the same area (these are in-room measurements):
KEF CI3160RLM-THX THX Certified Ultra in-wall speaker THD distortion measurement.png


KEF CI3160RLM-THX THX Certified Ultra in-wall speaker relative THD distortion measurement.png


Here is the waterfall and step responses:
KEF CI3160RLM-THX THX Certified Ultra in-wall speaker CSD waterfall measurement CEA2034.png


KEF CI3160RLM-THX THX Certified Ultra in-wall speaker Step Response measurement CEA2034.png


Conclusion
The KEF Ci3160RLM-THX is one of the most perfect in-wall speaker I have tested! This is a market that is dominated by custom system integrators which spec products without much technical input from the customer. As a result, there is less of an emphasis on engineering excellence than looks and margins. Given this, it is commendable that KEF has produced such a highly optimized design. It is enough to make this reviewer forget the rather high cost of the speaker. If you want the best for your home theater, you know where to look now.

It is my pleasure to recommend KEF Ci3160RLM-THX in-wall speaker.
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Very nice.

I always wondered how large the in wall speakers and integration market is, compared to regular high end stereo or home theater markets.
 
I always wondered how large the in wall speakers and integration market is, compared to regular high end stereo or home theater markets.
I don't have any specific but do know the market for these products is quite large. Vast majority are the round in-ceiling ones though for whole house music.
 
Definitely looks good, although it makes me even happier with my Revel W553Ls which perform quite similarly (excluding lobing, of course) at a much lower price. The lack of lobing would be a boon for horizontal use as a center on the KEF, but unfortunately it's much too long to fit horizontally in a standard 16" stud bay.

There's also a similar strange step/discontinuity in the measurements for both speakers, at a similar frequency:

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I wonder if that's perhaps an artifact of the test setup? It doesn't show up at all in Revel's measurements:

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In Erin's measurements, there's something similar but at a completely different frequency (which again makes me think it might be an artifact of the setup, specifically the mock baffle wall it's being installed in):

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i feel like for 5k, you could have small to large pockets built into your walls with grills or fabric, then put whatever speakers you want behind them.
 
I wonder if that's perhaps an artifact of the test setup? It doesn't show up at all in Revel's measurements:
The resolution of my measurements is higher than theirs and likely the reason it is showing that dip. It is quite narrow and would be filtered out.

That said, there could be some panel (baffle) resonance that causes that. if so, you would see the same in real life as well.
 
i feel like for 5k, you could have small to large pockets built into your walls with grills or fabric, then put whatever speakers you want behind them.
Yeah that isn't something you would want. Speakers inside "pockets" have issues due to the fact that they are radiating omnidirectionally in the low frequencies (and therefore you have all that reflected sound bouncing back and causing interference). For this purpose you should get in-walls or monitors that are designed to be flush-mounted. This also has advantages over conventional speakers in terms of eliminating SBIR and baffle-step (because infinite baffle).
The resolution of my measurements is higher than theirs and likely the reason it is showing that dip. It is quite narrow and would be filtered out.
That would have been my thought as well if it wasn't different in Erin's measurement of the same speaker.
 
That would have been my thought as well if it wasn't also different in Erin's measurement of the same speaker.
Oh, I didn't realize it was the same speakers. So seems like you are right. I will put a note in the review.
 
Great review amirm,I have a soft spot for KEF spk, was running 3 pairs of KEF spks b4 switched to the current spks.
 
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Ran this as a center with the larger 5160 for L/R for a while and it was fantastic. Unfortunately am renting now and had to get rid of them but fantastic speakers and would happily go back to them again.
 
Thanks for the review. KEF really knows what they are doing, what a great brand, using science and nice design at the same time to achieve convincing and not overly expensive results (for the most part of their catalogue).

There is a misprint in the price, one '0' is too many.
 
Why do people think this is the first in-wall/ceiling speaker that has measured well...?
 
Definitely looks good, although it makes me even happier with my Revel W553Ls which perform quite similarly (excluding lobing, of course) at a much lower price. The lack of lobing would be a boon for horizontal use as a center on the KEF, but unfortunately it's much too long to fit horizontally in a standard 16" stud bay.

I'm actually replacing my W553Ls with these. I wanted an LCR setup and I'm renovating part of the house and can adjust the stud bays. It probably wasn't actually worth the money to switch, but I have zero buyers remorse.

The Revel W553L is a fantastic value and sound amazing.
 
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