Kali Audio IN-8 Studio Monitor Review

[galileon]

Hey, that's all you got as a supposed proof of your supposed Kali In-8 junk ?

You know, this kind of Youtube test is irrelevant :

Firstly, what you hear is your system, not the sound on the recording on the video
Secondly, the recording itself is rarelly of very high quality, and alas it's the case here
Thirdly, how can you judge phase, dynamics capability, respect of timbres, only on short extracts of hard compressed rock/pop music played loud ? it's practiccaly impossible to make any valuable statement on the compared speakers.
And finally, the "test" doesn't compare the Kali In8, but the smaller In5

So, you don't like the Kalis, it's your absolute right, no speaker is perfect and without any flaw, particularly budget speakers.
But stop write words like "junk" in order to dismiss these speakers. You're the only one to push such a statement.
If you want to demonstrate your claim, please try to be a little more serious than this.

The more you insist in such an excessive way, the more your efforts are pathetic to read.

I see so U can have U'r own thinking no problem. I will say again - Kali audio is the worst designed and sounding speaker i ever had because of phase issues at the highs. Its the matter of so poor quality materials used for converters ( speakers ). The transient response of high frequencies doesnt exists - i have many tweeters and tested chep like 10$ and a ones for 500$ piece and none of them have had this kind of issue.

If U suggest that spl measurements can tell U the all or almost all whats needed to be knows to judge then U are wrong.
The issues mentioned by me cannot be measured so easiliy - i dont think they can be measured by anything than our Ears!

About yt and other examples - U can easily hear that kali do NOT REPRODUCE anything like hihats, rides, crash, all of the symbols - they do not exists on kali trashy speakers. Even my samsung phone can reproduce them better.

Thank U and good luck listening to the kali garbage!

 

[Tovarich007]

Dear Galileon, I do not own nor listen to a Kali speaker, but I know several seasoned sound professionnal, musicians and music lovers with experience, fine ears, who do. And they don't share at all your judgment about those speakers.

By the way, I didn't hear that much differences between the Kali and the APS on the video you've posted, and I can't figure out how I could have heard big differences on such a poor video.

So I suggest that you calm down, that you go listening to the speakers you really like, or to your Samsung smartphone (why not) instead of trolling this thread with your obsession.

And, please, have a little meditation about this quote : "Tout ce qui est excessif est insignifiant" (Talleyrand) "Anything excessive is insignificant" in english.

That's all.

 

[Haskil]

Hey, that's all you got as a supposed proof of your supposed Kali In-8 junk ?

You know, this kind of Youtube test is irrelevant :

Firstly, what you hear is your system, not the sound on the recording on the video
Secondly, the recording itself is rarelly of very high quality, and alas it's the case here
Thirdly, how can you judge phase, dynamics capability, respect of timbres, only on short extracts of hard compressed rock/pop music played loud ? it's practiccaly impossible to make any valuable statement on the compared speakers.
And finally, the "test" doesn't compare the Kali In8, but the smaller In5

So, you don't like the Kalis, it's your absolute right, no speaker is perfect and without any flaw, particularly budget speakers.
But stop write words like "junk" in order to dismiss these speakers. You're the only one to push such a statement.
If you want to demonstrate your claim, please try to be a little more serious than this.

The more you insist in such an excessive way, the more your efforts are pathetic to read.

These comparisons are a joke. These speakers are obviously not crap. And claiming it with such insistence is strange. You should ask the boss of Kali who sometimes hangs around here what he thinks of this criticism on the comb filter in the treble...
Are the Kali IN8-V2s perfect? No. Excellent, yes. And I have them under my ears when I work. I bought them to see, thinking that if they were mediocre I would put them on the top floor on either side of a television screen. And that I would buy something else for my office - Génélec, Neumann, the list was open and the price therefore not very important since in addition I can buy with a discount as a professional music journalist... and they are still there ...I have a subwoofer to plug them in, but I'm too lazy to take the measurements and install it...

 

[malone-m]

hello
Please look here:

There is the same as i told here - kali is one big anti-phase junk.
Cheers

They sound exactly as they measure - APS brighter, Kali darker. No dramatic colorations or anything similar. But maybe my ears aren't "golden" enough..

 

[Tovarich007]

They sound exactly as they measure - APS brighter, Kali darker. No dramatic colorations or anything similar. But maybe my ears aren't "golden" enough..

Well, slightly brighter for the APS and slightly darker for the Kali. But we don't know how the recording of this video was made. Less than one dB difference modifies the perception, and moreover I guess it wasn't recorded with a top notch microphone. And, once again, this type of compressed music played loud demonstrates nothing in terms of dynamics, timbre and sound space accuracy. The only interest of this musical test is to verify if the speakers have à good power handling. I'm speaking only about the limited technical interest of this music,.

As for music itself, I am myself a fan oof rock/pop, and sometimes even of heavy metal, though I prefer classical and jazz.
But hard compressed rock or techno are not adequate genres for testing most of a speaker's criterias
So I never rely on this type of Youtube so called comparative videos to give any valuable impression.

Kali IN-8 are objectively very good budget monitors with a good value for money. Certainly the APSs are good monitors too, they've gained an enviable reputation in the studio and in the pro audio press, they're based on a very different design than the Kalis. Their price tag is higher too, but not extravagant.

And Galileon is just a troll, so close this debate.

 

[galileon]

Hah thats funny this forum is adequate to gearspace quality. Nobody cares about the truth. Only one thing kali made perfectly and i can confirm is the marketing and paid lies from many yt stars. Good luck Brothers!

 

[Haskil]

Hah thats funny this forum is adequate to gearspace quality. Nobody cares about the truth. Only one thing kali made perfectly and i can confirm is the marketing and paid lies from many yt stars. Good luck Brothers!

I had a doubt, but now I am informed: you are not looking for the truth in any way...

You have found a bone and you are gnawing at it with an intriguing insistence which shows the problem you have much more than the faulty measurements of this enclosure which have been shown here and elsewhere by rigorous measurements which have left nothing in the shadows and therefore allow us to say that they are not crap as you compulsively maintain.

 

[Aurvandil]

I compared Kali In-8, Adam t8v and some Klipsch in the store. Klipsch immediately lost to my taste, I don't remember the model, I asked for something from hi fi for comparison. I liked Adam's scene and high frequencies better. Hihats and even the violin on adam is better. Kali turned out to be better in the middle. Moreover, it was more noticeable just on dense rock music at high volume. Adam was turning the sound into mush. In the end, I chose Kali. But impressions of the scene and high frequencies in comparison may turn out to be exactly what galileon hears.

At the same time, I don't localize sounds very well. Perhaps there are many people who are more sensitive to the scene. It took me a while to realize that the source of the 4 kHz beep with harmonics was a light bulb. First, I checked all the power supplies.

 

[galileon]

I compared Kali In-8, Adam t8v and some Klipsch in the store. Klipsch immediately lost to my taste, I don't remember the model, I asked for something from hi fi for comparison. I liked Adam's scene and high frequencies better. Hihats and even the violin on adam is better. Kali turned out to be better in the middle. Moreover, it was more noticeable just on dense rock music at high volume. Adam was turning the sound into mush. In the end, I chose Kali. But impressions of the scene and high frequencies in comparison may turn out to be exactly what galileon hears.

At the same time, I don't localize sounds very well. Perhaps there are many people who are more sensitive to the scene. It took me a while to realize that the source of the 4 kHz beep with harmonics was a light bulb. First, I checked all the power supplies.

Sure and in the room like mine -> 120ms of reverbration time -> this defect is much more pronounced.
Cheers

 

[MintSpeak]

I see there are switches in the monitor for placing it right up against a wall, will it sound fine this way or am I better off buying a smaller monitor to get some space between the monitor and the wall?

also I am trying to understand what would be better to get, kali IN8 vs LP6 vs 308p, considering the fact the 8" will be sitting right on my wall, but i will be using room correction.
(and also the fact that if the lp6 is not much worse than the two others i'd like to know, since its significantly cheaper too.)

 

[2020]

I see there are switches in the monitor for placing it right up against a wall, will it sound fine this way or am I better off buying a smaller monitor to get some space between the monitor and the wall?

also I am trying to understand what would be better to get, kali IN8 vs LP6 vs 308p, considering the fact the 8" will be sitting right on my wall, but i will be using room correction.
(and also the fact that if the lp6 is not much worse than the two others i'd like to know, since its significantly cheaper too.)

I'm not sure about the switches but everybody has to offer something like this nowadays, because they never know how the speakers are going to be used. Some people will not use them with a PC or DSP box, and they have to plan for that. Limited EQ is always better than nothing.

If you're going to be putting a speaker right on the wall, then you cannot use rear ports. That poor energy has to go somewhere, it has to breathe!

Room correction can only do so much, even if it is the more advanced kind like DIRAC. Try not to excite the room like that if you can.

LP6 is a different design entirely. The coaxial nature of the IN line means you can experiment with it in horizontal nature as well, not just right side up or upside down. This may be useful to you if you cannot get close enough to the correct room height normally. You can try an alternative configuration that gets the tweeter more correct.

 

[Ellebob]

We carry all 3 at work and I have taken all 3 home to listen. I think the IN-8 is a noticeable jump up from the LP-6 or 308. Worth the extra in my opinion.

 

[Bruce Morgen]

We carry all 3 at work and I have taken all 3 home to listen. I think the IN-8 is a noticeable jump up from the LP-6 or 308. Worth the extra in my opinion.

Definitely!

 

[MintSpeak]

We carry all 3 at work and I have taken all 3 home to listen. I think the IN-8 is a noticeable jump up from the LP-6 or 308. Worth the extra in my opinion.

Great! That's really helpful would you say the IN-8 is also fine for fairly close distance use? (Around 70cm head to speakers.) And do you think placing it right next to a wall will affect it much, considering the front bass port?

 

[Ellebob]

You will be fine at 70 cm. It has dip switches on the back to compensate for various placements, there are two settings for against the wall or very near wall. One is on a desk near wall and the other is on a stand near wall. You can try the various settings and see which works best for you.