You'd be happy with a KH310 then. Add a sub and be very happy ...You have a small room, my loudspeakers are at 2,7/3 meters from my listening point and is a midsized room.
You'd be happy with a KH310 then. Add a sub and be very happy ...You have a small room, my loudspeakers are at 2,7/3 meters from my listening point and is a midsized room.
Any other similar sized hifi speaker (like the old Audioplan Kontrapunkt) then wouldn't make it either, regardless of their highend price.That's what I'm saying, studio monitors are for direct sound/nearfield. If you want to have the direct sound experience from your sofa the KH 80 for instance aren't going to make it.
and? nobody said studio monitors can replace full range floor-standers. doesn't change the fact that there is no problem using them as 'hi-fi' speakers in the appropriate environment.As I said, I have the tiny Neumann in another smaller room for HT only (btw they are very good with subs for movies). LP is around 2 meters there.
If I put the Neumann in my main listening room, on stands at 3 meters they sound like a toy.
If you want to have the direct sound experience from your sofa
If I put the Neumann in my main listening room, on stands at 3 meters they sound like a toy.
That's because they are TINY. For 3 meter you need 8 inches or perhaps 6.5inches that are designed superbly. And you will be benefited by a sub then you can happily use a pair of 6.5 inch speakers. It's irrelevant to whether it's studio speakers or not.As I said, I have the tiny Neumann in another smaller room for HT only (btw they are very good with subs for movies). LP is around 2 meters there.
If I put the Neumann in my main listening room, on stands at 3 meters they sound like a toy.
Add a sub and that may change. In general I disagree with you regarding sound quality per se, but I agree that such a small speaker cannot play loud enough for serious listening. I once placed my similar sized Genelec 8020a on top of the K&H O300D and played bass heavy music at low SPL. My colleague thought that the sub was not switched off ...As I said, I have the tiny Neumann in another smaller room for HT only (btw they are very good with subs for movies). LP is around 2 meters there.
If I put the Neumann in my main listening room, on stands at 3 meters they sound like a toy.
As said this has nothing to with Hifi vs. monitor but with driver sizes and directivity, you can't expect from a tiny 4" monitor to the have the same directivity and max SPL as a 8" Hifi loudspeaker and of course also the opposite.As I said, I have the tiny Neumann in another smaller room for HT only (btw they are very good with subs for movies). LP is around 2 meters there.
If I put the Neumann in my main listening room, on stands at 3 meters they sound like a toy.
As I said, I have the tiny Neumann in another smaller room for HT only (btw they are very good with subs for movies). LP is around 2 meters there.
If I put the Neumann in my main listening room, on stands at 3 meters they sound like a toy.
Sorry I missed this... These two measurements should correlate. Not a coincidence.I am always using MMM to room EQ my speakers, so here is the MMM response of both my Kali IN-8 in my not very big room vs. the ASR Klippel measurements:
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As it can be seen the resemblance is not bad at all above the modal region (around 500 Hz).
Here also my quick'n'dirty sound power estimation measurement (also MMM but in a closer radius in all directions around the loudspeaker) vs. the Klippel measurement:
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Imho not too shabby either considering these measurements take less than a minute, imho not a bad quick'n'dirty check of the overall responses.
Yes.Is the same true for LP series models as well? Thanks.
Which they do quite well as expected from theory.Sorry I missed this... These two measurements should correlate. Not a coincidence.
IN-8s are in my living room, distance about 2.75m from listening position, 2 JBL subs, they sound just fine thanks. So did the LP-6 that they replaced.
I've just seen that the IN-8 are specified for a listening distance of 2.8 meters...
update: reading full specs it seems that is the maximum distance
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For movies one should want to achieve ~105dB peaks, as that is what movies are mastered to. Music is typically a lot more compressed, I usually am using <10% the wattage for music that I use for movies (-8dB on my volume for movies and usually -20dB or even lower for music).Obviously depending on how loud you prefer to listen. Personally I don't need 114db (or 85db continuous) in my living room so 3-3.5m would work fine with the IN-8 too.
For movies one should want to achieve ~105dB peaks, as that is what movies are mastered to. Music is typically a lot more compressed, I usually am using <10% the wattage for music that I use for movies (-8dB on my volume for movies and usually -20dB or even lower for music).
There is a difference in typical mastering levels/dynamic range.The difference between music and movies, doesn't really exist. There is no spoon...![]()