• Welcome to ASR. There are many reviews of audio hardware and expert members to help answer your questions. Click here to have your audio equipment measured for free!

just bought these, tell me how to feel

rwtooley said:
anybody know what's up with the Swiss flag? just for "cred"? don't see anything about where these are actually made.. isn't there any laws/guidelines against that?
Click to expand...
The company is based in Switzerland.
 
kemmler3D said:
However, it might be justifiable. From the seller's perspective they probably get too many returns from audiophools that think the cables don't sound good.
Click to expand...
That makes a lot of sense and I wouldn't harbor ill will towards a company for playing that game.

To me, these seem like they are made with quality wire and quality connectors.

Flexible wire is a plus and I'm a big fan of the Amphenol connectors. My biggest problem with the cables I've purchased is connectors that are either way too tight or too loose. I've never had a problem with the ones I've made using Amphenol connectors.
 
ta240 said:
either way too tight or too loose. I've never had a problem with the ones I've made using Amphenol connectors.
Click to expand...
yes! the Monoprice ones I have (multiple buying windows and lengths) slide right off, waaaay too loose. at least these are baby-bear "middle bed" just right. just wish I had thrown all the literature away without looking at it, like I do with all my owners manuals.
 
Bought WBC cables before. Well constructed, good components, nicely finished and a good price.

From my point of view, I kind of agree that there could be some attempt at avoiding early returns/running down the returns window, but mostly I think the company is playing the audiofool game and just being a bit tongue in cheek. I would hazard to guess that if someone spoke to a company employee that there might be a chuckle and a quiet "don't worry about it" response.
 
L5730 said:
Bought WBC cables before. Well constructed, good components, nicely finished and a good price.

From my point of view, I kind of agree that there could be some attempt at avoiding early returns/running down the returns window, but mostly I think the company is playing the audiofool game and just being a bit tongue in cheek. I would hazard to guess that if someone spoke to a company employee that there might be a chuckle and a quiet "don't worry about it" response.
Click to expand...
Yeah well, I still can't condone it.

Either it's ironic, then I don't like it because I expect professionalism from a company I'm supposed to buy electrical equipment from. Or it's not ironic, then it's a flat out lie into the face of customers, which I like even less and it also is unprofessional.

Either way, no thanks. Just another reason I'm glad I've been buying this kinda stuff exclusively from pro audio suppliers for decades. No bullshit and just cheap, good stuff that works and lasts.
 
WBC assembles cables with good cable stock and connectors and are fine in that respect, but they do use tongue-in-cheek marketing. It's been discussed before. Don't get yer panties in a bunch as they say.
 
Barrelhouse Solly said:
I'm not a physicist or electronics engineer but I believe that electrons don't care which wire is which. Like water, they go "downhill."
Click to expand...
Please read carefully!
There is no claim for directivity of the signal path!
The only claim is for the shielding to be connected to the source side, which could be advantageous in some interference cases.
Burn in: only ears burn in :)
 
Hayabusa said:
Please read carefully!
There is no claim for directivity of the signal path!
The only claim is for the shielding to be connected to the source side, which could be advantageous in some interference cases.
Burn in: only ears burn in :)
Click to expand...
Technically, brains do. :p
 
I got a pair about five years ago, real short to connect my Topping E30/Topping L30 as a stack. They were cheap, as I recall. Ignored the nonsense about "burn-in", did pay attention to cable direction 'cause why not? They have excellent termination, and I could order a pair just a foot long, which was all I needed and no more. Sound wasn't a factor at all, but cosmetics were. The RCA plugs look great and are good and tight. I've bought all sorts of line-level interconnect. A thrift store I frequented had a basket full of Monster Cable from abandoned home theaters, sold them for something like $3 to $15. I got my pair of the "World's Best Cables" for a little over $10. So, I'm a happy camper.
 
Last edited:
Ropeburn said:
Technically, brains do. :p
Click to expand...
Yep .... I call this 'brain-in'.
I use 'burn-in' for post production testing for early failures of electronics..
I use 'break-in' for mechanical devices that change a little after first time usage.
I use 'warm-up' for devices that need to reach a certain stable performance after being switched on.

rwtooley said:
what do you make of the burn-in period?
Click to expand...


Cables don't need 'burn-in' as an interlink cable won't suddenly stop working when used. Some soldering connection may be dodgy and may even break when the cable is handled. 'Burn-in' process will not help here. The only thing that might help is some pulling/bending at the connectors when in use.

Cables don't need 'break-in' as mechanical nothing changes.

Cables don't need warm-up either.

Brain-in is what this is all about.
The manufacturer uses the whole 'burn-in shtick' because people believe it and will take the manufacturer more serious and placebo (in this case brain-in) is real.

Oh.. another thing. This cable won't help with ground loops. In fact it may be worse than when using a coax cable.
As long as the cable works fine, did not cost more than you want to pay, fits well, is of the needed length and looks good to you then use it.
Cable looks fine. It won't 'do' anything for the sound.
 
Last edited:
Hayabusa said:
Technically there are also time related constants in the ear itself. :rolleyes::rolleyes:
Click to expand...
Constants. See?

Your ears don't change while your brain is getting used to a new sound characteristic, or while it's making one up. Or if they do, certainly not for the better.
 
Cable is advertised as quality but I was not going to bother to search for a link or a price for such quality.
  • Grounding the shield at the source side (hence 'directional') is a valid feature for audio cables... but only if that same 'shield' wire is pig-tailed and accessible at the load side.
  • The benefits of twin-leads for each side (+/-) and without TSP seems self-defeating... even if there maybe a benefit for some skin-effect probabilities.
Since we are talking about emotional attachments, these 2 can be considered my subjective concerns and I am sticking to them.
I also prefer a 195hour cryogenic cycling for my interconnects prior to the 245hours of burn-in .:facepalm:
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

D
Amplifier and speaker impedance
Replies
14
Views
851
dogma
D
T
Ubuntu Asunder/Brasero MP3 DataCD play order by filename....?
Replies
1
Views
247
trevor_bartram
T
olds1959special
Four mono amps to power speakers safe?
Replies
1
Views
368
DVDdoug
DVDdoug
H
Amp for Aune AR5000
Replies
1
Views
786
Mr Swing King
M
D
Hypex NC252MP cautionary tale
Replies
2
Views
733
DanielF
D
Back
Top Bottom