JBL Studio 6 alive on USA JBL site 698, 690, 630, 620, 610, 665c, 625c, 650p

[Martin]

I don't understand why these manufacturers turn the waveguide 90 degrees on their center channel speakers. I'm sure the dispersion is great on the vertical plane but it will be absolute garbage on the horizontal plane where it matters.

Martin

 

[Beave]

I don't understand why these manufacturers turn the waveguide 90 degrees on their center channel speakers. I'm sure the dispersion is great on the vertical plane but it will be absolute garbage on the horizontal plane where it matters.

Martin

I see your point, and there is definitely some validity to it. There is also *some* validity to they way they do it.

Look at the Revel C205 for example. The oval waveguide has been rotated 90 deg. In terms of tweeter dispersion, it appears to be a bad idea.

But consider this: If they kept it oriented horizontally (the same as for the other speakers in the lineup), with its oval shape, it would necessitate even farther spreading out of the two woofers that flank the tweeter. And increased spacing of the woofers causes increased problems in off-axis cancellations.

Ideally the woofers should be as close together as possible. That happens with the orientation shown above.

So it's kind of a tradeoff between proper orientation of the waveguide in terms of tweeter dispersion vs. spacing of the woofers.

Ideally, probably best of both worlds would be to use a waveguide dedicated to this particular model, one that is oriented more correctly for the tweeter but not so wide as to space the woofers too far apart. That would require designing a new part, and the speaker would still be handcuffed by the flawed MTM layout regardless.

 

[ROOSKIE]

I don't understand why these manufacturers turn the waveguide 90 degrees on their center channel speakers. I'm sure the dispersion is great on the vertical plane but it will be absolute garbage on the horizontal plane where it matters.

Martin

As @Beave said the dispersion would likely be even worse if they did not turn it.
It isn't about turning the guide per say but about turning the whole speaker - that essentially all speakers wit this design MTM when horizontally arrayed have uneven and narrow horizontal dispersion.

The only way to fix that is via coaxial, 3 way with Wt/mW, or using a vertical orientation when possible. It may also be possible to use a wide band driver that can play down to 800hrz or so - that would be okay. Like a robust horn loaded compression driver. Still wouldn't be great and the guide would be large.

 

[Dj7675]

Looks like JBL has Studio 6 In Walls now as well...

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Some really interesting models.

 

[billqs]

Right now, though the incoming 6 series is currently priced higher than the HDI 1600's, probably the 1600's are on sale.

 

[ROOSKIE]

Right now, though the incoming 6 series is currently priced higher than the HDI 1600's, probably the 1600's are on sale.

Not sure what you mean.
The HDI-1600 is on sale for $693 each, so 1.
The 630 $699 a pair, so for 2.

 

[billqs]

Not sure what you mean.
The HDI-1600 is on sale for $693 each, so 1.
The 630 $699 a pair, so for 2.

D'oh!

 

[clipghost]

Are these ever going to be released?

 

[ROOSKIE]

Are these ever going to be released?

In stock @music direct and @safe n sound

 

[Alice of Old Vincennes]

I see your point, and there is definitely some validity to it. There is also *some* validity to they way they do it.

Look at the Revel C205 for example. The oval waveguide has been rotated 90 deg. In terms of tweeter dispersion, it appears to be a bad idea.

But consider this: If they kept it oriented horizontally (the same as for the other speakers in the lineup), with its oval shape, it would necessitate even farther spreading out of the two woofers that flank the tweeter. And increased spacing of the woofers causes increased problems in off-axis cancellations.

Ideally the woofers should be as close together as possible. That happens with the orientation shown above.

So it's kind of a tradeoff between proper orientation of the waveguide in terms of tweeter dispersion vs. spacing of the woofers.

Ideally, probably best of both worlds would be to use a waveguide dedicated to this particular model, one that is oriented more correctly for the tweeter but not so wide as to space the woofers too far apart. That would require designing a new part, and the speaker would still be handcuffed by the flawed MTM layout regardless.

Can't imagine Revel rotated tweeter to save 2 or 3 inches. Must be another reason.

 

[goldark]

Has anyone been able to find measurements for any of the Studio 6 series? Really wondering how they compare to the Studio 5.

 

[Prolix]

Affordable, decent looking, dual 8s... very interested. But, 12" wide monoliths are probably an impossible sell in my household.

 

[Asking Dumb Questions]

The new JBL Studio 630 is available for purchase !

 

[christofferh]

Anyone got one of these models and measured it? Would be interesting to see the measurements.

 

[FrantzM]

Anyone got one of these models and measured it? Would be interesting to see the measurements.

+1

 

[christofferh]

Is there anyone that have bought any of this models from JBL?

 

[testp]

i seriously hope someone sends one in.. Studio 690 or Studio 698