derbidrd
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It's a pity, they're in stock in Europe, thomann doesn't ship to USA? I see one in stock in five stars guitars.Seems like nobody stocks them....
It's a pity, they're in stock in Europe, thomann doesn't ship to USA? I see one in stock in five stars guitars.Seems like nobody stocks them....
This speaker looks a lot like a cinema speaker Electro-Voice made years back. I worked for Electro-Voice at the time and was able to speak to the engineer that was involved in the design. This EV speaker system was designed to have a very specific final response. This was based on theater acoustics and a specific recommended placement. Also I think THX criteria at that time played into things? I bring this up because some of these speakers tested might not be designed to play in an average home listening room??Pffft. That puny thing? Amir needs a 5732
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AFAIK, these are "premium" pro speakers, winner of NAMM show award, gets a lot of praise in pro/dj world along with plenty of complaints about weight.
The thought of "not made for near field listening" quickly comes to mind, but couldn't support the thought with and evidence as the same sound in near field travels to far field. The drops in frequency response in near field won't get magically corrected in far field.
Next - could rattling of Klippel NFS played a role? This shouldn't be any issue with generated test/sweep signal (unlike music) when measuring tweeter.
Clearly SRX835P has out of whack frequency response, shown (to some extent) even in JBL's own highly smoothed graph. Wonder why and what pro users like about these?
No not at all.Do you know what LFE means?
"..as the same sound in near field travels to far field..."
Oh, the pros would dance on the table if this would be the physical truth.
I didn't imply far field measurements will look exactly like near field measurement, of course there will be dispersion, attenuation, reflection etc.
However, the dips in frequency response won't be filled.
A listening session would be nice, to see if very narrow directivity can be ok.
I recall a good sale on the Eons last year, around 25'% off. Not sure if Amir gets a discount, but might be worth waiting.
There is a difference. The simple waves like a spherical wave, cylindrical wave and planar wave provide different attenuation of 1/(r^2), 1/r and 1 respectively. A real speaker has a complex frequency dependent wave geometry. So you have a distance dependant frequency response especially if asymmetrical drivers, horns and naked chassis are combined. Adding the frequency dependent damping, which is of interest if the distance is large.I didn't imply far field measurements will look exactly like near field measurement, of course there will be dispersion, attenuation, reflection etc.
However, the dips in frequency response won't be filled.
I honestly expected more from the EON series too. I tried the smaller EON610 as well as the JBL IRX108BT and couldn't handle the hiss from either at 2-3m indoors, so I resold them to some folks who used them in their more typical usecase (outdoor PA and small church sound system.) The few times I brought them outside to the back yard, they did sound nice from a distance in the background.Or he could buy mine for an huger discount . I played them for a grand total of 10 minutes or so.
Part of the reason I purchased them was because of my high expectations for this speaker. I was hoping to get a taste of the Eons, but it would be humorous if the Eons measured better.
I am not following the trust question regarding the company. That aside, the interest of our visitors and membership as noted is to use pro products for "domestic" indoor use and it is with that lens that I evaluate them. Of course a side effect is that even people who use them for Pro applications now have an excellent guide on how the sound may need to be tuned to get good sound. Information JBL had provided in this regard were pretty misleading with that heavily filtered frequency response graph, making the speaker look much better than it really is.@amirm Thank you for this review. It is nice to see how modern PA speakers measure. However, I am at a loss with your subjective comments. It is a PA speaker and you do not recommend it for Hi-Fi. It is not a word I normally use but nothing else will fit to this moment: Duh!
Meanwhile, you think it may be OK for outdoor or parties, which the speaker is designed for and marketed as such. What do you expect such a comment achieve other than make us think you are not trusting the manufacturer?
I am in the process of ordering the EON615. So should I cancel that given the hiss?I honestly expected more from the EON series too. I tried the smaller EON610 as well as the JBL IRX108BT and couldn't handle the hiss from either at 2-3m indoors, so I resold them to some folks who used them in their more typical usecase (outdoor PA and small church sound system.) The few times I brought them outside to the back yard, they did sound nice from a distance in the background.
I do think there's a value proposition in these PA speakers (especially the EON610 or EON615 because the JBL measurements look pretty darn good) if someone is not as sensitive to hiss or if they're used at a longer 3-5m distance because of the larger SPL potential vs traditional bookshelf speakers. I'd be very curious to see the Klippel frequency response and THD at 96db or more.I am in the process of ordering the EON615. So should I cancel that given the hiss?
I am in the process of ordering the EON615. So should I cancel that given the hiss?
I ask owners or listeners of the JBL Eon 615 to please help Amir on the open question of hiss. Please weigh in if you have valid input. Sounds like Amir is trying to spend his meager budget wisely to benefit us all. Unfortunately, If hiss is a deal breaker why bother with a test???I am in the process of ordering the EON615. So should I cancel that given the hiss?
Have you heard them working at their intended use?