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JBL M2 versus 4367 Shootout

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So you're going to see if you like the sound of passive crossover distortions and a relative lack of driver control? :)

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Well yes, but I thought it might be Intersting to determine the degree of difference, ridiculous really as the wave guides are completely different.
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I am trying to arrange a 'shootout' between JBLs passive 4367 and their active M2

You're testing a lot of gear (by my feeble standards) already now...

That would make at least 5 sets of speakers, plus the Superstream and Phison and Prism and Weiss and... what else?

I'm busy enough just testing what I've had for years against itself, can't really imagine trying to pick from and promote among so many peers.

Makes me glad I'm not a Desperate Dealer.
 
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I am 'testing' the Manger C1's right now with Ryan Adams at Carnegie Hall, they are passing with flying colours.
I just made a list of interesting loudspeakers and the 4367 and M2s are on the list, and I like horns.
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I am sure you have an opinion as an M2 user?
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I am sure you have an opinion as an M2 user?
Keith
The M2 is great but I have yet to hear the 4367. M2 should outperform the 4367 but question is, whether it can justify its cost difference.
 
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Amir how is the M2 sold in the US, here you can purchase as a 'pro' package with the Crown amps or an 'audiophile' package with the ML amps, needless to say one is much more expensive than the other.
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Dang you Keith, you get all the toys. ;)
 

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Amir how is the M2 sold in the US, here you can purchase as a 'pro' package with the Crown amps or an 'audiophile' package with the ML amps, needless to say one is much more expensive than the other.
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That is how it is sold. You can however get exceptions to let the customer use their own amps. Whether they do it for every dealer, I don't know but with the ones that know what they are doing, they will allow it (concern is blowing up the amps and blaming it on Harman).
 

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I will try to hear both and perhaps lose all my hardly accumulated audiophile creds :(.. What not to like if they are they are purported to be? $20 K and be done. I still, however like the idea of multiple subs .. Seems to me the way we hear bass there is more to it than the FR we measure at one point in a room. Bass is IMO a whole room affair.
 
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The Full M2 package comes with room correction including multi-sub optimization Frantz. So you don't lose that ability at all.
Ok! You're selling:mad: the stuff to me now ? :D... From interested to much more interested.:eek:
 

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The M2 is the pro version, with its own amplification (Crown mono amps) and DSP EQ → $20,000

The 4367 is the consumer version, normal where you buy your own amps and DSP chips in the box (pre/pro) for the Room EQ → $15,000
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I've read some, and the M2 is the catalyst, the apotheosis of JBL speaker's expansion into the scientific stratosphere from HK genesis team.
Not many comparisons though; and both models are really liked by many. I would think the M2 for people who want simplicity, the full package.
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http://www.jblsynthesis.com/tl_files/catalog/jblsynthesis/4367/JBL Synthesis 4367 White Paper.pdf
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/M2System/
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi-way/247050-jbl-m2-poors.html
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Aesthetically, they look boxy, not attractive. But in audiophile circles does that count? No. In ultra hi-end circles, yes.
...A lot cheaper than the BeoLab 90s. The BL 90...a nice friendly decor design? ...Yes, futuristic and unique plus all that internal amplification and acoustic feature.
 

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Let's go shopping!

Theoretical Choice:

4 M2 pro systems (8 speakers)

1 Beolab 90 pair

Hmmm...
 

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I bet the m2 wins that one. It's much bigger and is DSP'd out of the box down to 20hz. If you could hear the 4367 with a crossover to a pair of jl audio subs and Acourate DSP, the 4367 would be a much better challenger.


The interesting comparison is the waveguides. They are both SOTA waveguides. The m2 probably has wider off axis linearity in both planes. The 4367 probably has more of the focused off axis sound. I bet the difference is similar to the Beolab's different settings for one listener versus a wider sweet spot. The m2 will have a much wider vertical and lateral sweet spot.
 

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[QUOTE="NorthSky, post: 20988, member: 8"]The M2 is the pro version, with its own amplification (Crown mono amps) and DSP EQ → $20,000

The 4367 is the consumer version, normal where you buy your own amps and DSP chips in the box (pre/pro) for the Room EQ → $15,000

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I've read some, and the M2 is the catalyst, the apotheosis of JBL speaker's expansion into the scientific stratosphere from HK genesis team.
Not many comparisons though; and both models are really liked by many. I would think the M2 for people who want simplicity, the full package.
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http://www.jblsynthesis.com/tl_files/catalog/jblsynthesis/4367/JBL Synthesis 4367 White Paper.pdf
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/M2System/
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi-way/247050-jbl-m2-poors.html
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Aesthetically, they look boxy, not attractive. But in audiophile circles does that count? No. In ultra hi-end circles, yes.
...A lot cheaper than the BeoLab 90s. The BL 90...a nice friendly decor design? ...Yes, futuristic and unique plus all that internal amplification and acoustic feature.[/QUOTE]

Sorry, this is not accurate. Yes, the M2s are active and come in packages with amps, and the 4367s are passive, allowing audiophiles to choose their own amps, but they are not versions of each other, they are different designs.

Tim
 
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