JBL 4369 announced

[meracus]

So what’s the price of the 4369 then ?

 

[zhabotinsky]

"The JBL 4369 studio monitor is expected to be available in specialist stores in German-speaking countries from the second quarter of 2026 – at a price of 20,000 euros per pair." (from fairaudio.de)

 

[meracus]

That’s steep

 

[Kravi4ka]

I am actually pleasantly surprised. The 4367 had a rare ability to sound full, dynamic and detailed at the same time. There is something weirdly addictive to listen to a well designed horn covering 800Hz up with a bass driver that is up to the task to complement a compression driver. And it is not double the price. 20K is a good starting point for a second hand deal I am excited, just waiting for the first pairs to arrive in Europe so I can go and have a listen.

 

[mjgraves]

I am actually pleasantly surprised. The 4367 had a rare ability to sound full, dynamic and detailed at the same time. There is something weirdly addictive to listen to a well designed horn covering 800Hz up with a bass driver that is up to the task to complement a compression driver. And it is not double the price. 20K is a good starting point for a second hand deal I am excited, just waiting for the first pairs to arrive in Europe so I can go and have a listen.

Hopefully, the availability of this new model will drive the price of some of the older models a little lower on the used market.

 

[meracus]

Hopefully, the availability of this new model will drive the price of some of the older models a little lower on the used market.

I just purchased a 4365 …. I’m sure all will be fine .

 

[fredoamigo]

Hopefully, the availability of this new model will drive the price of some of the older models a little lower on the used market.

Regarding the price, I haven't seen anything official yet. Furthermore, if it's 20,000 in the US, I'm expecting it to be around 25,000 in Europe. If JBL releases them in the first half of 2026, then I'm eagerly awaiting the white paper with the initial data.

 

[Gibsonian]

I'll take two

 

[Sal1950]

I just got wind of these new JBL HDI's and like in the past when the 4367 and M2's were getting "new product" marketing, I got that tightness, empty feeling in my gut due to my wanting them so badly but knowing they'll never fit my budget or home. Current announced price is $23,000 US a pair, but no mention of the passive/active options pricing?
To me and in my "from follows function" mindset, they are really beautiful and a small upgrade to the 4367 looks. Most definitely a audio version of a 1960s muscle car, this guy screams 426 Hemi Cuda. One of these days I'll hit a big lotto and buy a crib with a music room big enough to support a 7.4.6 or more package of these, OMG, What FUN!

 

[JoshK]

I think they look great, but the scale is a bit hard to tell, apart from the known 15" woofer. They have an intentional nostalgic vibe with the walnut and JBL blue baffle. I honestly wished my M2s had that vide and given that I have to do some repairs, it is on the mind.

Mild tangent inspired by these:
I think the Opus12 family from ATH (mabat from diyaudio's creation) would be amazing if one were trying to mimic this concept in the diy form. I did DIY for over a decade before I just bought my M2s. One thing I like about the OPUS is the front of the mouth is curved out. That is important for the wavelengths and to avoid too much pattern flip.

 

[Sal1950]

I honestly wished my M2s had that vide and given that I have to do some repairs, it is on the mind.

OMG, what did you do to your M2s, I can't believe you blew one up with overdone SPL?
I'll tell ya what, you shouldn't even bother with those old clunkers any more.
Just go buy some new OPUS with the smooth curved fronts and toss those busted M2's out.
I'll drive all the way to Toronto and take them off your hands for you...

 

[Flaesh]

I honestly wished my M2s had that vide

Paint the front panel blue and glue walnut countertops on the sides, no?)) At least as a temporary solution, while Opuses are being printed.

 

[JoshK]

OMG, what did you do to your M2s, I can't believe you blew one up with overdone SPL?
I'll tell ya what, you shouldn't even bother with those old clunkers any more.
Just go buy some new OPUS with the smooth curved fronts and toss those busted M2's out.
I'll drive all the way to Toronto and take them off your hands for you...

Not exactly sure what happened but seemed maybe a bit of water damage in my last move? Also the screen was punched out. I got replacement CDs. I don't think anything is wrong with the woofer, but the tweeter was damaged.

 

[Flaesh]

 

[Sal1950]

Not exactly sure what happened but seemed maybe a bit of water damage in my last move? Also the screen was punched out. I got replacement CDs. I don't think anything is wrong with the woofer, but the tweeter was damaged.

Thank for the straight response. I'm sure that was a very depressing occurrence to have your baby damaged like that. I hope you were able to get a replacement driver and get it back to TOTL performance.
Cheers, Sal

 

[JoshK]

I think maybe only one was damaged when I last plugged them in (seemed it), but I bought two just in case. Unfortunately, the task of replacing them isn't a small task. You basically have to remove the woofer first and somehow get to the back of the drivers.

I just finished replacing a woofer in one of the lsr708i I had for surrounds as the movers apparently dropped the box (original box) hard enough to knock the magnet glue free and seize the magnet. I took those apart and back together. I am since very impressed with the engineering that went putting them together and making things easily replaceable.

P.S. anyone in the Toronto area want a free 708i woofer (728g I think) that has a torn VC (torn when removing said magnet), but otherwise great condition to learn/rebuild/experiment/whatever for FREE, lmk. Pick up only. PM me.

 

[JoshK]

snip: I don't like quoting pictures.... :/snip

Eburg as in Edinburgh? Wonder if that product exists here. Anyway, as much as I love blue, my favorite color and totally down with the legacy look, I wouldn't paint my M2s blue over the black currently. However, I would really love to veneer the sides and bevels in Walnut or dark cherry to match my furniture. Also my sides got a bit roughed, nothing major but not show room quality and it would bring them up a level. They were formally behind an acoustically transparent screen, so who cared?

[ went back to 2ch only some while back. My misses and me watch more artsy and indie movies, not blockbusters where the gee-whiz factor matters. I only miss my HT setup with surrounds for concert videos which *is* a passion. If I ever get the space again, I'll revisit. For now I go to about 30-40 live shows a year. ]

 

[Sal1950]

I think maybe only one was damaged when I last plugged them in (seemed it), but I bought two just in case. Unfortunately, the task of replacing them isn't a small task. You basically have to remove the woofer first and somehow get to the back of the drivers.

Modern speaker cabinet designs that no longer include a removable back panel can make repairs problematic, specially when the needed driver repair doesn't have front panel removable fasteners. It's maybe a plus for powered speakers that mostly have a large removable plate amp on the rear.
I envie you your M2s, wish I had the room and deep enough pockets to have 2 (or 5) here. I had to compromise with HDI 3600s a few years back. Still in love with them and short of a catastrophe they should take me to the grave.

 

[JoshK]

I bought my M2s (had 3, one was super damaged, but still have in storage) in I think 2016. I got them as demos, and didn't pay retail, still, I had to ship them, pay HST and all that BS. They kick ass and got me off the audiophile merry go round. They are better than my ears. And because you use DSP, you can dial in your own house curve.

P.S. I am not a believer that a big speaker in a small space is inherently worse than a smaller one apart from size and space occupation. The large drivers and horn/waveguide still are doing their directivity part and can be beneficial. It is more about whether you are far enough away that lobing doesn't matter. That said, I am in a condo but my LR is quite large.

 

[Flaesh]

The large drivers and horn/waveguide still are doing their directivity part and can be beneficial.

I agree. I've been using 15"+WG speakers in 14-foot-wide rooms for years.
I wanted to stop going off-topic in this thread, but I can't resist reposting this (not mine!)):