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JBL 308P MKII Studio Monitor Review

Thanks!

I think I'll give the KRKs a go, since I've already bought them. I do like my LSR305s (despite them not being necessarily the flattest), so I'd imagine the 308Ps would be pretty nice (given they're both JBL and probably similar).
308p measures better generally than 305p and is more capable in all areas that I can remember, but I imagine the 305p would be ok with the right EQ (it's not as flat as the 308p). Don't know anything about the KRK's, you'll have to see if they've been measured by Amir here on ASR, I've not looked.
 
All of those things make a great speaker. The JBL 308p Mkii gets a lot right. It doesn't have perfect frequency response, because you can improve it by flipping the HF Trim Switch to -2dB or alternatively using Anechoic Parametric EQ, but frequency response is still good even before that though. Directivity is very good. Bass extension is very good. Distortion is ok, but it's worse point. I can get them loud enough at 3.8 meter listening distance though without being disturbed by distortion, they do start to sound slightly unpleasant before overwhelmingly loud levels though, which I attribute to some kind of distortion. I'm pretty sure that if they were better speakers in terms of distortion I could listen to them louder, but to be honest I virtually never use them at even their most acceptable to me loudest level - so they're always in the green zone for me.

Did you buy these yet, you were almost going to?

The monies I’m due to pay for them hasn’t arrived yet, and now may take a while.

If a new model arrives in the meantime, that might be a blessing.

The frequency response of these speakers is one I’ve best I’ve seen in a review here. There’s a slight but very narrow 3db dip at c.1.3khz, so small that Amir’s doesn’t even bother with an EQ, then a bump right up at the top above my range (I’m 58).

I’m hoping distortion won’t be an issue for three reasons. Firstly, I’ll be sat close (maybe 1.5m) so won’t need to crank them up. Secondly, I don’t listen loud anyway. Thirdly, I’m looking at buying JBL’s 3 Series sub, which will take some of the heavy lifting off the woofer.

But we’ll see.
 
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The monies I’m due to pay for them hasn’t arrived yet, and now may take a while.

If a new model arrives in the meantime, that might be a blessing.

The frequency response of these speakers is one I’ve best I’ve seen in a review here. There’s a slight but very narrow 3db dip at c.1.3khz, so small that Amir’s doesn’t even bother with an EQ, then a bump right up at the top above my range (I’m 58).

I’m hoping distortion won’t be an issue for three reasons. Firstly, I’ll be sat close (maybe 1.5m) so won’t need to crank them up. Secondly, I don’t listen loud anyway. Thirdly, I’m looking at buying JBL’s 3 Series sub, which will take some of the heavy lifting off the woofer.

But we’ll see.
Ah, I see! I'd hold off on buying the sub, I'd get in your speakers first and see how well you can optimise them - you might find you don't need a sub. Re subs, when I looked into it and bought mine I came to the conclusion that SVS SB 1000 Pro was about the best value performer out there with bass down to 20Hz. Take a look at the recent subwoofer test thread though (it doesn't come top, but it costs less):
It's not really that crucial to have a sub when you have the low extension of the 308p, but it's a nice to have!
 
So, this is pie-in-the-sky stuff.

How about JBL replace the 3 series with, I suppose the 4 series. Better amps. Closer crossover between woofer and teeter without the 100hz ‘gap’.

New sub goes down to 20hz.

Sell at least one 2.1 system, so like these, but specifically designed to function as 2.1, so drivers are optimised.

Really want to push the boundaries? Built in DSP, optional app for your PC and microphone.

What’s not to like…

At the moment we have (UK prices) a pair of monitors for £400 and a sub for £350, so total £750. I think you could do all the above for sub-£1,000.
 
So, this is pie-in-the-sky stuff.

How about JBL replace the 3 series with, I suppose the 4 series. Better amps. Closer crossover between woofer and teeter without the 100hz ‘gap’.

New sub goes down to 20hz.

Sell at least one 2.1 system, so like these, but specifically designed to function as 2.1, so drivers are optimised.

Really want to push the boundaries? Built in DSP, optional app for your PC and microphone.

What’s not to like…

At the moment we have (UK prices) a pair of monitors for £400 and a sub for £350, so total £750. I think you could do all the above for sub-£1,000.
I don't know what JBL's plans are for the future. Have you looked anywhere on internet to see if there is any information on future plans for new products within JBL?
 
Hi ! thank you so much for your always excellent reviews I think that people usually despise the truth And the hard and sad truth comes often from measurements
what better evidence of a poorly performing woofer ? the very weak point of these types of speakers is often the woofer
Low THD amps are not a problem ... like low THD tweeters when cut below lets say 2 kHz
But good woofers (i.e. low in THD) are usually very very expensive and cannot be used in speakers sold at a low price point
I am more than sure that this speaker modded with a better woofer could sound fantastic
Woofer has to deal with the lower and mid range where most of the sound is
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Hi ! thank you so much for your always excellent reviews I think that people usually despise the truth And the hard and sad truth comes often from measurements
what better evidence of a poorly performing woofer ? the very weak point of these types of speakers is often the woofer
Low THD amps are not a problem ... like low THD tweeters when cut below lets say 2 kHz
But good woofers (i.e. low in THD) are usually very very expensive and cannot be used in speakers sold at a low price point
I am more than sure that this speaker modded with a better woofer could sound fantastic
Woofer has to deal with the lower and mid range where most of the sound is
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I have been thinking about modifying my 308 but ... I am no expert thus don't know what to improve in these...
The cabinet, it is clearly flimsy and cheap. Unbraced and ... cheap..
Drivers, I am lost there, IDK enough to suggest replacements
Amplifiers? Maybe.. Are the distortions figures we see and hear solely because of the amplifiers? or are the drivers playing a large part in those?

At the end, such modifications, may end up costing the brave, the cost of a stock-B, JBL 708 ...
Perhaps not worth it? Anyone?

Peace.
 
Hi

I have been thinking about modifying my 308 but ... I am no expert thus don't know what to improve in these...
The cabinet, it is clearly flimsy and cheap. Unbraced and ... cheap..
Drivers, I am lost there, IDK enough to suggest replacements
Amplifiers? Maybe.. Are the distortions figures we see and hear solely because of the amplifiers? or are the drivers playing a large part in those?

At the end, such modifications, may end up costing the brave, the cost of a stock-B, JBL 708 ...
Perhaps not worth it? Anyone?

Peace.
i would like to add only a comment
I have a pair of powered monitors designed and built looking to another professional monitor (someone call them a cloning attempt)
The cost of a complete pair of the cheaper model is about the cost of just one replacement woofer for the professional model !
And woofer has to cope with the range from 0 to 2 kHz ... a very demanding task for a driver
Drivers imho fix the top of the performance that can be obtained from a speaker
They are the most impacting limiting factor by far And good drivers usually are very expensive
If a driver has a high THD no amp can fix it
 
i would like to add only a comment
I have a pair of powered monitors designed and built looking to another professional monitor (someone call them a cloning attempt)
The cost of a complete pair of the cheaper model is about the cost of just one replacement woofer for the professional model !
And woofer has to cope with the range from 0 to 2 kHz ... a very demanding task for a driver
Drivers imho fix the top of the performance that can be obtained from a speaker
They are the most impacting limiting factor by far And good drivers usually are very expensive
If a driver has a high THD no amp can fix it
Just a loose thought: I wonder how much of this THD is "amplified" by the cabinet.
Well, if I buy something cheap, someone must manufacture it even cheaper.
There is no such thing as a free lunch.
 
I don't think the distortion seen is due to the amp, I would think it's the woofer. As an additional point, when I measure my JBL 308p Mkii I don't see the distortion peak between 1-2kHz, for my units they are well behaved in that area. This is my distortion measurement at 88dB at 1kHz at 3.8meters listening position for two speakers (note including SVS sub) - under 1% distortion above 1kHz:
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That's the equivalent of 1 speaker at 1 meter playing at 97dB which is the distance that Amir measures at (1m). I worked this out the following way: 88dB for two speakers at about 4m means each speaker is under 85dB load for 4m (doubling speakers adds 3dB). 85dB at 4m is 4 times greater distance than 1m - so two doublings of distance from 1m, and because each doubling of distance is equivalent to 6dB then this equates to addition of 12dB - therefore 85dB +12dB = 97dB for each speaker at 1m. Mine are also not falling apart between 100-500Hz like they do with Amir's at 96dB. So assuming my assumptions & calculations are correct then my JBL 308p are performing better than Amir's measured unit. Maybe there's some unit to unit variation re distortion.
 
Regarding the distortion.

Amir’s opinion seems pretty clear that he believes it’s from the amp. I wouldn’t like say either way.

It’d be interesting to see what both amp and woofer are, and see if they’re used in other models, and their performance there.

It does seem from both Amir and Robbo’s comments the distortion increases with volume; as I say, I don’t play very loud, and the use of a sub to do some of the heavy lifting are both factors which should help.
 
I moved my 308p from the wall to the middle of the room, and for some reason they sound flat. They have way more air behind them now, but they sound anemic. Bondary EQ and HF Trim are set to 0. Isn't BEQ for compensating when really close to a wall? I've had mine set to 0 before the move since they were a few inches from the wall. Also, what's the risk of things crawling inside the speaker hole? Does it matter? I live in a fairly cold climate with few bugs. Is itr common to filter these holes, or does it change the sound signature?
Old post but the center of your room is ground zero, in the literal sense, for bass nulls. Bass response in rooms is position-dependent. You can take measurements and do the math or just move them somewhere else until you find what you like.
 
Modification of LSR308, but also 308P could also be modified this way, baffle seems very similar, adding som wheight and rigidity to the bagffe
What about a cross brace or two for the MDF cabinet?

 
I don't think the distortion seen is due to the amp, I would think it's the woofer. As an additional point, when I measure my JBL 308p Mkii I don't see the distortion peak between 1-2kHz, for my units they are well behaved in that area. This is my distortion measurement at 88dB at 1kHz at 3.8meters listening position for two speakers (note including SVS sub) - under 1% distortion above 1kHz:
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That's the equivalent of 1 speaker at 1 meter playing at 97dB which is the distance that Amir measures at (1m). I worked this out the following way: 88dB for two speakers at about 4m means each speaker is under 85dB load for 4m (doubling speakers adds 3dB). 85dB at 4m is 4 times greater distance than 1m - so two doublings of distance from 1m, and because each doubling of distance is equivalent to 6dB then this equates to addition of 12dB - therefore 85dB +12dB = 97dB for each speaker at 1m. Mine are also not falling apart between 100-500Hz like they do with Amir's at 96dB. So assuming my assumptions & calculations are correct then my JBL 308p are performing better than Amir's measured unit. Maybe there's some unit to unit variation re distortion.
In 2020 I bought a pair of theses and one of them has this behavior. A drop around 1 and 2kHz and peak in distortion - both were easily audible with sweep signal and some songs mainly when playing in mono. This unit was send for repair and it was a pain in the ass to make JBL accepted it as a defective unit. I literally had to measure and do some blind tests in front of their repair team to prove that unit was different enough to be considered defective. A funny thing is none of them said they could hear these. I don't know if they really couldn't or were just pretending.

At the end they "fixed" it (THD was put down but not much the drop around 2kHz). In stereo mode and with EQ it does not bother me but during measurements for room calibration I can identify the "culprit" always.
 
In 2020 I bought a pair of theses and one of them has this behavior. A drop around 1 and 2kHz and peak in distortion - both were easily audible with sweep signal and some songs mainly when playing in mono. This unit was send for repair and it was a pain in the ass to make JBL accepted it as a defective unit. I literally had to measure and do some blind tests in front of their repair team to prove that unit was different enough to be considered defective. A funny thing is none of them said they could hear these. I don't know if they really couldn't or were just pretending.

At the end they "fixed" it (THD was put down but not much the drop around 2kHz). In stereo mode and with EQ it does not bother me but during measurements for room calibration I can identify the "culprit" always.
Strange that you had to convince them with blind tests, because I would have thought all they need to do is measure the speaker, and if it's not coming up to spec then they should do something about it. There is a little bit of a dip at the crossover point (at about 1500Hz), but I guess you're not talking about that.

On topic of faults, I was listening watching a movie yesterday and I could have sworn the right channel was playing too low (and ages ago I calibrated them all for equal SPL at listening position, so shouldn't be calibration related) - I'll need to investigate and do some SPL measurements. It is a fairly subtle change though so I might have imagined it or my right ear is slightly blocked which might be the cause. Yes, so don't assume it's a fault in my speakers, but figured I'd mention it. When I have time & inclination to investigate & measure then I'll probably update this post. For now assume it's my imagination and/or slightly blocked right ear. But it did make me start thinking about what the reliability & expected life is of these cheaper JBL speakers. I bought mine in March 2020 and they've been used for hours everyday as TV/Movie & Music speakers - they get probably at least 7hrs usage most days.
 
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Strange that you had to convince them with blind tests, because I would have thought all they need to do is measure the speaker, and if it's not coming up to spec then they should do something about it.
I thought that measurements were enough but they said it had to be audible to be considered a defective product. They were so unhelpful that I had to taken both speakers to their place and compare them with measurements and the infamous blind test that they did to me.
Mine were bought in February 2020.
 
I thought that measurements were enough but they said it had to be audible to be considered a defective product. They were so unhelpful that I had to taken both speakers to their place and compare them with measurements and the infamous blind test that they did to me.
Mine were bought in February 2020.
Not very good customer service! Thing is though, how long is the warranty on this product and it might differ from country to country? If it's out of warranty then they don't have an obligation to repair it anyway.
 
Not very good customer service!
Not at all
JBL/Harman is well known by their not so good customer service here... And yes, the speaker was under warranty. I had noticed this "artifact" a little more than a month (return window had already expired) after I received the speakers.
 
Are there any other JBL speakers or other brands that sound like this series? It would be nice to find something without that Class D amplifier/hiss and harsh highs after a certain volume. I really miss the sound of these but the hiss is something I couldn’t stand.
 
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