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Amazon UK is selling 308p for £206 per unit. Would you guys say it is a good price? I’m about to pull the trigger ….. 
I must say, I agree.Glossy plastic finishes should be bannable.
I was lucky enough to get them in a sale for £150 per unit back in 2020. But, looking on camel tracker it looks like prices have been increasing since then. There's been an Amazon listing for the 308p for £196 per unit for the past year, and another listing of the same speaker where £202 would be a good price for the past year. It's up to you, there doesn't seem to have been anything better than £196 per unit in the past year. And as you know inflation is bad, so is the price really going to come down any lower - I don't think so.Amazon UK is selling 308p for £206 per unit. Would you guys say it is a good price? I’m about to pull the trigger …..![]()
As far as I'm concerned that's normal for the 308p. No way would I use them as "computer speakers" located within 1m of listening position - the hiss at idle at these kind of distances would be very annoying as when you use your PC a lot of the time you don't have any sound being produced by it, but for TV/music/movies they're ok at any distance because they're in constant use. I don't really think the hiss has gotten any worse with my 308p over time (had them since 2020). It's not related to ground loops as it the hiss is there even when the 308p is not connected to any inputs.I think the hiss is getting worse on mine. I read here that it can get worse over years. I say this because my right ear actually aches and I'm spending more time away from them. I use them in a nearfield setup 2 feet from me, with balanced cables. The hissing comes from the tweeters, and a ground loop isolation cable or power cleaner do not solve it. I have never experienced this fantasy where they only hiss 2 inches from your ears. For me it's more like 3 feet.
Maybe it's because I'm younger than the average audiophile, so my ears are more sensitive. I'm in London and considering letting them go, if I could get some passive speakers with the money raised from them. The problem is they could be useful as hall or large room speakers, but if they're not being used right now, they're just wasting money and space.
+1As far as I'm concerned that's normal for the 308p. No way would I use them as "computer speakers" located within 1m of listening position - the hiss at idle at these kind of distances would be very annoying as when you use your PC a lot of the time you don't have any sound being produced by it, but for TV/music/movies they're ok at any distance because they're in constant use. I don't really think the hiss has gotten any worse with my 308p over time (had them since 2020). It's not related to ground loops as it the hiss is there even when the 308p is not connected to any inputs.
At my age (56) I can still hear their hiss @1,5m distance, in a quiet room, @2m not any more. But, it doesn't get worse with time and IDK why it should, so maybe it's worth checking why your ear is aching? Blocking with ear wax and/or inflammation can occur early, and the latter can damage your hearing if untreated.I think the hiss is getting worse on mine. I read here that it can get worse over years. I say this because my right ear actually aches and I'm spending more time away from them. I use them in a nearfield setup 2 feet from me, with balanced cables. The hissing comes from the tweeters, and a ground loop isolation cable or power cleaner do not solve it. I have never experienced this fantasy where they only hiss 2 inches from your ears. For me it's more like 3 feet.
Maybe it's because I'm younger than the average audiophile, so my ears are more sensitive. I'm in London and considering letting them go, if I could get some passive speakers with the money raised from them. The problem is they could be useful as hall or large room speakers, but if they're not being used right now, they're just wasting money and space.
For me I hear it from that distance when in line with the tweeter. But I have looked into ear issues. Used a cotton bud, which I was warned against years ago, and it only made the ears tender. The way our health system is it'll take ages to see a GP for something as minor as an earache, but their site recommends an earwax cleanse with medical grade almond or olive oil, so I'm trying that.At my age (56) I can still hear their hiss @1,5m distance, in a quiet room, @2m not any more. But, it doesn't get worse with time and IDK why it should, so maybe it's worth checking why your ear is aching? Blocking with ear wax and/or inflammation can occur early, and the latter can damage your hearing if untreated.
It is, but, not all monitors are equal. With Neumann, you probably wouldn't hear hiss >30cm from the tweeter, but pretty expensive... You might want to try the Adam T8V https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/adam-t8v-studio-monitor-review.17118/ , they are less noisy, at a still relatively low price.Still, isn't 1m from your head on either side normal for studio monitors?
Amazon UK is selling 308p for £206 per unit. Would you guys say it is a good price? I’m about to pull the trigger …..![]()
Audiophile separates?
Active is always better ultimately, but audiophile makers if they use this technique charge an effin' fortune for it. Passive speakers all seem to have a slight fog in comparison irrespective of their price, no matter how capable the amp and especially at these sort of prices... Anyway, I'm an old crinkly and evengelising for active speakers like a reformed ex-smoker so apologies here![]()
It depends on what I value more. A deeper bass or a clearer midrange. I prefer the 305p II in the direct near field above my desktop for better midrange according to my ears.WOW! Way better than I was expecting, and way better than the 305p.
Will it be a proper use case and loud enough as a Hi-Fi speaker in a 12' x 15' room with a listening distance of about 7-8' ?
I use them in a slightly larger room than that and at nearly twice the listening distance (for one of my listening positions) and they're good so, and getting loud enough - so you'd be ok from that point of view. If I remember rightly I measured the mid 80's as my max normal listening SPL (using a UMIK-1 mic) at that listening distance (about 3.9m), and that's with the volume dials on the back of the speakers only at notch #13, so 3 clicks above half way point (I think there's 20 clicks from zero to max volume), so they can go louder still. That's also only with a max of 0.9V being inputted into the speakers when they're supposed to be OK up to 2V for input. Amir did say he noticed the 308p clipping and sounding horrible if you put too many volts into it, but he wasn't able to say at which voltage level he started noticing the clipping/distortion (he didn't make a note of it). In the past I've used nearly 2V as the max theoretical input voltage and didn't notice any problems, but it would have been super useful if Amir had worked out the voltage input at which the clipping problems occur with the 308p.Will it be a proper use case and loud enough as a Hi-Fi speaker in a 12' x 15' room with a listening distance of about 7-8' ?
I use them in a slightly larger room than that and at nearly twice the listening distance (for one of my listening positions) and they're good so, and getting loud enough - so you'd be ok from that point of view. If I remember rightly I measured the mid 80's as my max normal listening SPL (using a UMIK-1 mic) at that listening distance (about 3.9m), and that's with the volume dials on the back of the speakers only at notch #13, so 3 clicks above half way point (I think there's 20 clicks from zero to max volume), so they can go louder still. That's also only with a max of 0.9V being inputted into the speakers when they're supposed to be OK up to 2V for input. Amir did say he noticed the 308p clipping and sounding horrible if you put too many volts into it, but he wasn't able to say at which voltage level he started noticing the clipping/distortion (he didn't make a note of it). In the past I've used nearly 2V as the max theoretical input voltage and didn't notice any problems, but it would have been super useful if Amir had worked out the voltage input at which the clipping problems occur with the 308p.
Well, I was answering WilliamW's question, so you didn't have to understand it, ha! So you reckon your mass-filled speaker stands have brought out soundstage and taut bass to your 308p's? I have to say that this is a bit of a nonsense, assuming nothing else has changed and you have your speakers in the same position. The JBL 308p already has the ability by itself (from the measurements) to have a large sweetspot and good soundstage due to the good & wide horizontal directivity combined with a pretty good frequency response. I wanted to point that out, as we shouldn't have nonsense being perpetuated in the forum as it misinforms newbies and people end up buying stuff they don't need whilst having unrealistic expectations - snake oil. It's also useful if you yourself "understand the details & measuring stuff" that you mentioned at the start of your post - because you'd end up saving yourself money & time too, you don't need special speaker stands to bring out the best in a speaker - as long as they're in the right position & at the right height and you're not allowing lots of vibration to pass through from the speaker to the stand then you're alright, you don't have to spend money on fancy speaker stands that you incorrectly think are "[helping] with the overall soundstage, depth & tautness of bass" that you mentioned. You've chosen a good budget speaker though!That’s all too complicated for me haha
I’m not into the measuring / details stuff, just the listening etc
I’ve got mine on very heavy Atacama SLX600 speaker stands mass filled with atabites & they really helped with the overall soundstage, depth & tautness of bass etc and I’d highly recommend doing the same…
Most AV / studio monitor stands, IMO, aren’t good enough or heavy enough, more so for the sheer size of the 308P MkII speakers
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That’s all too complicated for me haha
I’m not into the measuring / details stuff, just the listening etc
I’ve got mine on very heavy Atacama SLX600 speaker stands mass filled with atabites & they really helped with the overall soundstage, depth & tautness of bass etc and I’d highly recommend doing the same…
Most AV / studio monitor stands, IMO, aren’t good enough or heavy enough, more so for the sheer size of the 308P MkII speakers
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