Okay, so then we're clear that your problem is with Amir and not with the beneficial objective data we would all be privy to from Klippel NFS measurements. It makes one wonder why you chose, unprompted, to mention that you own the speakers and are physically close to Amir just to insinuate that he's not capable of measuring the speakers on a forum devoted to doing that exact thing though doesn't it? I think there's a word for people who do things like that?No, that's a straw man.
Rather, it's the interpretation of the results where discussion is appropriate. (I would think that should be obvious by now.)
And all of this assumes that multiple NFS testers would achieve the same objective measurements to begin with.
Okay, I believe that you made it pretty easy to do just that. Happily obliged.I would not have any issue if some other LXmini owner decided to contribute a speaker to Amir for NFS testing. It won't be me though.
You can beat me up for my stance on this. I'm totally fine with that.
I'm sure that you're aware that what interests people about Amir's reviews is the use of the Klippel NFS to measure the complete sound field of a speaker. Olive's preference formula, which has been hashed out over and over and over and over (get it?) again despite not being an official part of the "review", as a means to discourage or cast doubt on the validity of the speaker reviews is not helpful. Regardless of how anyone feels about the subjective part of the review, more reviews which contain the objective measurements should be encouraged.Measurement is not the problem. Interpretation of the data is.
In section 10 of Dr. Olive's paper on the preference score model, he discussed its limitation. There isn't a good model to relate the perceived spatial attributes of a speaker with its measurements. Listeners have strong preference to perceived SPACIOUSNESS...
You doubt that a full measurement of the speakers sound field, reflections, and distortion measurements would add any value to this speakers discussion? I doubt that you're correct. Guess where the smart money is?I doubt that the NFS will provide any additional insight but as Dave said if someone wants to build / donate a LXmini for NFS testing I wouldn’t mind the additional data. However, the lack of a NFS test is not going to keep me from enjoying the LXminis, YMMV.
This is more Olive's Preference score strawmaning. See? I wasn't lying about it being a bad repetitive argument! The Klippel NFS doesn't rigidly define anything. You know that, I know that, everyone in this forum knows that. Measuring this speaker on the Klippel NFS would pose no special sound field challenge. And yes, you and others here are clearly afraid that the measurements may show it to have directivity or other issues which you would have no rational way to defend. So don't measure one! I totally get it. Ignorance is bliss.The fear is not of the measurements, the objection is to the rigid interpretation of Harmon/Toole/Olive, i.e. anything that falls outside of a singular model of directivity is automatically frowned upon.
My pair is not in current use, but my build is much too shoddy to withstand shipping.