Not expensive enough?That is interesting - and not totally surprising. Any cable capable of Gb/s data over 100m should stomp all over audio stuff.
But why are we not using it?
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Not expensive enough?That is interesting - and not totally surprising. Any cable capable of Gb/s data over 100m should stomp all over audio stuff.
But why are we not using it?
I am. Run both AES/EBU and balanced analog through CAT6.That is interesting - and not totally surprising. Any cable capable of Gb/s data over 100m should stomp all over audio stuff.
But why are we not using it?
Because in post after post and thread after thread every ASR member knows a copper cable is a copper cable so electricity has little problem moving through it.But why are we not using it?
That's how I wired up our local radio station some 14 years ago. Used a mixture of 8 pair STP and Cat5 cables depending on how many circuits I needed. Far cheaper and easier than running individual cables from studios to racks.I am. Run both AES/EBU and balanced analog through CAT6.
But I don’t need an AES paper to tell be that this works… it’s trivial.I am. Run both AES/EBU and balanced analog through CAT6.
Thnx! I read some AES papers, but I dont think I saw this one.It's all explained if you look up AES72. https://www.aes.org/publications/standards/search.cfm?docID=108
I got that from Wikipedia. Old tech, but apparently still used in some far away place. I did a browse for twisted pair tech. I cant explain this, and its not relevant, but Im always amazed at what ppl invent with understanding of natures secrets. How we can manipulate the forces we dont see because of invisibility or beyond microscopic sight. We can only see effect, and with experiments and math we can make results. Todays philosophy lesson I havent even finished morning coffe I feel if Id knew those secrets id be a billionaire or maybe a pile of ash in my own laboratory. Anyway, knowledge is a rich feeling!Where do did you get that information? That sounds like you misunderstood something. 4 twists per km would not do anything useful, and phone lines aren’t usually differential either.
This may explain what you're referring to (I haven't watched all of it) for those that don't have access AES;Well, if you could read it
I found this and this:Cat snake cables are even available off the shelf, terminated in Neutrik etherCON connectors or copies thereof (basically an RJ45 with gold-plated contacts shoved into an XLR sleeve).
That looks good. Punch tool is pretty easy to use, you should not need help. It's not so much a punch, as a "push the wire correctly into the slot" toolI found this and this:
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That should do right, this terminate and cut isolation in one blow. And colour codes at PCB correspond to wire colour? I have a friend who work in automation. He can help me work the punch tool, if theres a difficulty to that.
This was the plan. Shield will go to ground and chassi ground so this will be included. These cables are abundant too so I can get some lengths to stress with bittests.you'll need to be using them inside your gear also. If you are connecting multiple interfaces on the one CAT cable you might just need to remove the outer insulation (and shield if present), so you can separate the internal pairs to their needed destination.
Even more relevant, imho, are these RJ45 adapters:Cat snake cables are even available off the shelf, terminated in Neutrik etherCON connectors or copies thereof (basically an RJ45 with gold-plated contacts shoved into an XLR sleeve).
Those look smart. Awhole system of rj45 to audio. Its kind of the thing I aim to make, but in a box.
???? To mix AES and S/PDIF, why not just add RCA-XLR adapters at each end as needed?Those look smart. Awhole system of rj45 to audio. Its kind of the thing I aim to make, but in a box.
Tell me something. If I split the twisted pair into two. to make use of the eight lanes at the RJ45 contact. It defeats the purpose of the twisted pair concept? How bad is this? 1 pair for spdif signal and return and 1 pair for AES +/- and so on. Or else I would have to use two rj45 contacts for input.
Then better get those sssnake thingies with 4 inputs/outputs. With 2 RCA adapters it accommodates all of the RME DB9 IOs onto a CAT cable without any soldering whatsoever.???? To mix AES and S/PDIF, why not just add RCA-XLR adapters at each end as needed?