Is a tweeter with waveguide a horn speaker?

[tomtoo]

See?

Yea, i give up a jbl 305 is a horn speaker.

 

[tomtoo]

Not like to end up in a mountain vs. Hill discussion.

What's the Difference Between a Hill and a Mountain?

While there is no standard height that defines the two land features, there are some generally accepted characteristics of each.

www.thoughtco.com

Not like to hurt the feelings of our nederlands neighbors, and would say there highest mountain is just a hill.

"....Some accepted characteristics of a mountain are:

A natural mound of earth created by faulting
A very steep rise in the landscape that is often abrupt in comparison to its surroundings
A minimum height of just over 2,000 feet2
A steep slope and a defined summit or peak
Often has a name
Depending on the slopes and elevation, mountains can be a challenge to climb.."


What would mean the jbl 305 is NOT a horn speaker.

 

[Rednaxela]

Perhaps first watch a movie about the matter.

 

[Katji]

Vaalserberg...ok, it's a big hill, not a berg. ...But it's long, so not a koppie. .......But still relative, I suppose, and colloquial.

... and while tomtoo gets technical there, I've been playing with google translate all the time. ...............And I was thinking that sometimes high is the right word even if you speaking Nederlands/German. .........That came from the thought that although it's a low land, it's apparently not difficult to get high.

 

[Rednaxela]

That came from the thought that although it's a low land, it's apparently not difficult to get high.

 

[tomtoo]

Perhaps first watch a movie about the matter.

I did see, nice movie.

 

[tomtoo]

I see this discussion with humor. Its somehow a mountain vs. Hill disscusion.

A littel bit like is Pluto a Planet?

Let the science community fight about it. Whyle i imagine how it would be getting high on the highest mountain in the nederlands?

 

[DanielT]

Guys, guys ... mountains or hills and what not ... now it's a matter of focus and not coming up with long-sought parables, or pasting irrelevant YouTube videos in the thread.Not because...

 

[DanielT]

If you can do better than the people on these four pages, then my hat is off to you!

What is the Difference between a Waveguide and a Horn?

Hi. Can someone explain in simple terms and, with a diagram or two? Thanks and apologies if it has been covered before. Andy .

www.diyaudio.com

If I'm going to stop goofing off. That thread was good. It is recommended!

 

[Tangband]

DIY in the thread, nice. I think.

Good work! They look good. Are you happy?:

HYBRID - a loudspeaker with dsp crossover

Hi. I will tell a little about a project that started in Sweden and in the beginning was a passive loudspeaker. The goals where to create a good loudspeaker with good directivity with driveunits that were good but not really expensive. This passive loudspeaker were not developed by me. I bought...

audiosciencereview.com

Edge, a free program I see:

Home of the Edge

Here are a few different horns / waveguides. Note how the concepts of waveguides and horns are mixed well among the manufacturers. That is, the saying horns / waveguide, or just the one and the other a little randomly as I perceive it. I may be wrong in my observation. :

Home

Explore our stock of horns and waveguides. Find the partner for your horn driver to deliver midrange and high frequencies, with reliable range and coverage.

www.parts-express.com

Here for those who have access to 3D printers:

Waveguides | somasonus

www.somasonus.net

My Genelec 8340 sounds better than my HYBRID , and the same is true with 8330- its a better loudspeaker. I stopped building loudspeakers when I borrowed a pair of 8330. My HYBRID in active form is better sounding and measuring than both jbl 305 or Ino piP, so not bad after all.

 

[Katji]

That thread was good. It is recommended!

Very good.
See how at least half of it is about the semantics, using the right words and why that is important - but then even that can become problematic.

...And then with pro audio, they tend to say flare/s, and they're physically more like horns than waveguides of hi-fi speakers, and they're always with compression drivers.

 

[Chrispy]

I do like the mountain vs hill analogy, tho. I grew up in Illinois (highest point is "Charles Mound", all of 1235 ft, and considering that the basic elevation is 600 ft to begin with....). Now I live in actual mountains....there is quite a difference I'll never look at my 305s the same now, tho.....

 

[DanielT]

My Genelec 8340 sounds better than my HYBRID , and the same is true with 8330- its a better loudspeaker. I stopped building loudspeakers when I borrowed a pair of 8330. My HYBRID in active form is better sounding and measuring than both jbl 305 or Ino piP, so not bad after all.

A chef, who cooks his own dish and despite that thinks that the restaurant, in this case with a top chef, serves another dish and it is preferred. Then you are objective in your evaluation.

But do you weigh price in relation to performance? Your DIY vs the said Genelec?

 

[mhardy6647]

The question if a dome with a wg is a horn, remindes me on this scene.

I can kinda grok what you're gettin' at.

That's not a horn.

This is a horn.

 

[tomtoo]

I can kinda grok what you're gettin' at.

That's not a horn.

This is a horn.

Thats exactly my thinking!

 

[MakeMineVinyl]

Then is this a 'compression' driver?

And what about this??

 

[DanielT]

Then is this a 'compression' driver?

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Speaking of compression ... and horns ...

 

[Katji]

That's not a horn.

[...]

This is a horn.

^^That will remain my view/idea of it, but that [diyaudio] thread goes beyond the size and shape.

Then is this a 'compression' driver?

Yes. - So far I know.

 

[tomtoo]

Then is this a 'compression' driver?

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And what about this??

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No more a kind of a compressor driver.
No its not a driver, its a compressor horn.