I had been tracking ART a while back but not lately. There were some teething issues in the beginning from what I remember and since my processor wouldn’t be supporting it, I pursued other ways to improve bass and overall sound.
HTP-1 seems like a good choice, although I have never been brave enough to embrace it. It also has BEQ support which is great for movies if one is not paranoid like me.
but still great). Can bang 105dB at 30hz, but distortion will go up significantly. 4 subs won't break a sweat at 105dB at 30hz and stay below 2-3% distortion. They are only at 50-60% of their gain, and then +12dB from ART gets them to 3/4 at max.Seems your wife is a keeperIt was still expensive to me but I didn’t get the V2 version and I bought em used from a rich dude with a fancy home theater that was moving. This is where fortune favors the nag. He had em at $6k each so I was just going to buy one - telling my wife this is an end game sub that’s beyond what I ever wanted (I was initially shopping for a 2nd F113). Then I told my wife that I’ll need to get a 2nd one down the line because you need 2 matching subs where she gave me this weird/disapproving look as in, I just “approved” you getting one and you are already talking about buying a 2nd one? She then thought for a second and said offer him $10k for both so I don’t have to listen to you talking about the 2nd sub ad nauseam and browsing online for days on end.
This is the culmination of years on nagging lol. So, while it was still expensive to me, it wasn’t the crazy current retail. $10k for the salon2 and $10k for the Gothams, $2k for the JL CR-1 = my poor man’s Sonus Faber Suprema lol.
… my wife is also incredibly patient with this crazy hobby I have, including supporting some fairly large cash outlays over the yearsThe only better arrangement on the wifey side is not to have to ask for approval at all. But still can't prevent ranting and endless complainingSeems your wife is a keeper
You got a great deal on those Gothams, though these days you can spend much less and still obtain incredible LF output. Especially the offerings from GSG and JTR … still expensive, but compared to most of the silly HEA subs out there, they are a relative bargain. My next round of subs will likely be sealed GSGs using the 24” SI driver (https://shop.gsgad.com/collections/...tegrity-hs-24-24-high-excursion-carbon-driver)
As to getting ART capability, tough to beat the HTP1 for the price, especially if you can grab a used unit (they are tough to come by!). Got my HTP1 for $2k used, mint condition, love it
.No ART yet, need my new speaker system first, expected to arrive by end JanuaryThe only better arrangement on the wifey side is not to have to ask for approval at all. But still can't prevent ranting and endless complaining
HTP-1 seems to be a champ now with ART. BTW did you go ART and if so what are your impressions?
Just to clarify, my multi-purpose room can't really take bass below 22hz as it starts to shake structures and does all kinds of havoc. So unfortunately I build my system at that level, but hopefully one day I will get to advance to monster level subs.
… for now just trying to learn HTP1 basic operation. It’s a very powerful prepro, but learning curve a little steep. I actually haven’t installed latest firmware yet with ART as it is officially beta and waiting for others to work the bugs out (which thus far it has been remarkably stable from what I have read on AVS forum thread). @TimoJ and rest of the crew have done a great job with the early development!Seems your wife is a keeper
You got a great deal on those Gothams, though these days you can spend much less and still obtain incredible LF output. Especially the offerings from GSG and JTR … still expensive, but compared to most of the silly HEA subs out there, they are a relative bargain. My next round of subs will likely be sealed GSGs using the 24” SI driver (https://shop.gsgad.com/collections/...tegrity-hs-24-24-high-excursion-carbon-driver)
As to getting ART capability, tough to beat the HTP1 for the price, especially if you can grab a used unit (they are tough to come by!). Got my HTP1 for $2k used, mint condition, love it
I definitely didn’t need these Gothams. A second F113 is all I needed but the sub had to look good since it’s in family room. No JTR type would pass the WAF. She actually likes how the salon2s and Gothams look so it helps getting better looking products when you want the bread winner to spend her mid-year bonus on my audio gear. The Gotham’s volume set to less than 1/4 which is why I think it’s a bit of a waste.The only better arrangement on the wifey side is not to have to ask for approval at all. But still can't prevent ranting and endless complaining
HTP-1 seems to be a champ now with ART. BTW did you go ART and if so what are your impressions?
Just to clarify, my multi-purpose room can't really take bass below 22hz as it starts to shake structures and does all kinds of havoc. So unfortunately I build my system at that level, but hopefully one day I will get to advance to monster level subs.
Can’t imagine any reasonable person would have any objections . Love Revels as well. A bit bigger screen if there are excess funds?
Tell me about itNo ART yet, need my new speaker system first, expected to arrive by end January
And yeah, you genuinely need to be careful with the big subs, especially those with high output <~25Hz, as they absolutely can damage your structure!
Agreed, that screen far too small for that system
Whoa! That is from your subs? Beautiful view by the way
To me spending a lot of money on a pair of speaker that you then put in a room, like a living room, where you cannot optimize where the speaker go, for aesthetic or practicality reason, where you seat in relation to the speakers and the limitations of the room is putting lipstick on a pig and no DSP can overcome bad placement.
While I agree with your statement about placement, that does not alter the fact that a good quality pair of speakers is the first and most important step towards auditory bliss.
It seems that you are measuring things by your own budget and spending habits, which is useful for statistical reasons.
Can I assume you have caulked all of the window panes in that room?
LOL … that is a photo from GSG website, not my system, just showing @Lsc example that their subs have good WAF. But indeed, with 2x of those beasts will definitely get some serious room pressurization !Can I assume you have caulked all of the window panes in that room?
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