Introducing the Phono Cartridge Measurement Library

[narud]

WOW, Seems like I have to buy a III too… but maybe you can show what IV and V does too? I have a Jico SAS/B for my IV but not yet had the time to try it.

the iii and iv are the same generator. you just get the added benefit of the brush with the iv. in theory, you should get similar results with your sas/iv combo.

 

[red_delta]

Taruya 01M-S Blue

Notes

• Cartridge: Taruya 01M-S Blue
• This has a sapphire needle, which their marketing makes some interesting claims regarding
• Stylus condition <50 hrs on vinyl
• Test record: CBS STR100 issue 3
• Turntable: Fluance RT82 Stock
• Tracking force: 3g
• Phono stage: Schitt Mani
• Capacitance- Unknown, shipped the record to a friend so he could measure his cartridge

 

[aaaakkkk]

Taruya 01M-S Blue

Notes

• Cartridge: Taruya 01M-S Blue
• This has a sapphire needle, which their marketing makes some interesting claims regarding
• Stylus condition <50 hrs on vinyl
• Test record: CBS STR100 issue 3
• Turntable: Fluance RT82 Stock
• Tracking force: 3g
• Phono stage: Schitt Mani
• Capacitance- Unknown, shipped the record to a friend so he could measure his cartridge

The lifespan of a sapphire needle at "Tracking force 3g" is several hours.

 

[Balle Clorin]

No wonder it is sold out…

Maybe that is what you want for a DJ scratching stylus?

“We developed ground-breaking new Taruya cartridge 01M-S that has highest performance ever.


We use blue sapphire chips which are said that the load on vinyl is low when compared to the traditional diamond stylus since sapphire is softer than diamond.
This is the world first use of sapphire for the integrated cartridge.”

Worlds first?

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[USER]

Taruya 01M-S Blue

Notes

• Cartridge: Taruya 01M-S Blue
• This has a sapphire needle, which their marketing makes some interesting claims regarding
• Stylus condition <50 hrs on vinyl
• Test record: CBS STR100 issue 3
• Turntable: Fluance RT82 Stock
• Tracking force: 3g
• Phono stage: Schitt Mani
• Capacitance- Unknown, shipped the record to a friend so he could measure his cartridge

Loving these offbeat measurements.

The retail price tho...

 

[red_delta]

Yeah I wish projects like this existed when my friend bought this cartridge, as he would not have purchased it. At this point I am considering buying him a VM 95C for Christmas. Also if you look at their marketing notes for this thing you are supposed to track it at 3.5g. The other one in their lineup that is interesting is the Taruya 01-M Red, as they claim "The high output level and flat frequency response makes this cartridge ideal for club and studio, your listening room use. Wherever you are, Hear the MASSIVE SOUND!". How can anyone turn down "MASSIVE SOUND"?

 

[Balle Clorin]

Incoming . Something to measure and play with during the Xmas holiday. V15 IV Jico SAS/B and Tonar Hyperelliptical. Should be interesting to compare those, The SAS has a high VTA 32degrees, the HE looks to be far less

 

[mglobe]

These Ortofons usually like lower R.

Any suggestion of how low?

 

[Thomas_A]

Any suggestion of how low?

It varies. I would suspect around 25-30 kOhm for the Black version you have.

 

[Balle Clorin]

anything from 20k to 47k. just try and measure-try -measure. I used a potentiometer in series with 10k in paralell with the RIAA 47k

 

[mglobe]

Played around with Capacitance and Resistance loading, and got to this combination that works pretty well. I unfortunately bought a box of 1000 resistors that really only had two values that I could make use of without getting out the soldering iron, which typically ends up with me either burning myself or something in the house. I may take @Balle Clorin suggestion and get a pot to trim it with.

Thanks to everyone who has helped.

 

[JP]

Considering the range of most of our hearing, that's not bad.

 

[USER]

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Played around with Capacitance and Resistance loading, and got to this combination that works pretty well. I unfortunately bought a box of 1000 resistors that really only had two values that I could make use of without getting out the soldering iron, which typically ends up with me either burning myself or something in the house. I may take @Balle Clorin suggestion and get a pot to trim it with.

Thanks to everyone who has helped.

Remember that that is a CBS STR-100 so if you want the actual FR output (TRS-1007 equivalent) to be close to that drop capacitance by 50-100pF for real world use.

 

[mglobe]

Remember that that is a CBS STR-100 so if you want the actual FR output (TRS-1007 equivalent) to be close to that drop capacitance by 50-100pF for real world use.

Damn it, not I want to spend the $80 on the Ca 1007 and spend more time on it. Or… I could just listen to music.

 

[USER]

Damn it, not I want to spend the $80 on the Ca 1007 and spend more time on it.

Absolutely no need to do that. Like I said, just lower capacitance by 50-100pF if possible and you are all set.

 

[mglobe]

I purchased the Clearaudio Concept V2 ~ 2 1/2 years ago, knowing very little about it and before I knew about ASR.
Watching this thread made me wonder about the quality of the cartridge.
This measurement led me to purchasing the Ortofon 2m Black.

 

[Balle Clorin]

I read multippel places that Clearaudios MM are based in AudioTechnica MMs ..

But that downward slope does not look like AT…
EDIT CORRECTION from below. Should rather say “not look so much like a typical AT I have”.
How does it sound?

MoFi MM cartridges - AT generators, with an aluminium body wrapped around them?

Just saw some reviews... had a look at a couple of marketing images... The MoFi MM cartridges, seem to be a core AT generator body (possibly AT95) - fitted into a solid aluminium surround, and with a Stylus "plug" used... Same deal as for the Clearaudio Concept MM cartridges. They bulk buy...

www.audiosciencereview.com

 

[mackat]

I read multippel places that Clearaudios MM are based in AudioTechnica MMs ..

But that downward slope does not look like AT…

How does it sound?

MoFi MM cartridges - AT generators, with an aluminium body wrapped around them?

Just saw some reviews... had a look at a couple of marketing images... The MoFi MM cartridges, seem to be a core AT generator body (possibly AT95) - fitted into a solid aluminium surround, and with a Stylus "plug" used... Same deal as for the Clearaudio Concept MM cartridges. They bulk buy...

www.audiosciencereview.com

It could be based on the VM95 series - the curve looks pretty similar:

 

[Balle Clorin]

Your right, but even duller.. many AT have a taller peak

 

[mglobe]

I read multippel places that Clearaudios MM are based in AudioTechnica MMs ..

But that downward slope does not look like AT…
EDIT CORRECTION from below. Should rather say “not look so much like a typical AT I have”.
How does it sound?

MoFi MM cartridges - AT generators, with an aluminium body wrapped around them?

Just saw some reviews... had a look at a couple of marketing images... The MoFi MM cartridges, seem to be a core AT generator body (possibly AT95) - fitted into a solid aluminium surround, and with a Stylus "plug" used... Same deal as for the Clearaudio Concept MM cartridges. They bulk buy...

www.audiosciencereview.com

Like Tom Waits is singing through a veil? . It sounded “ok” but not great. Now that I have listened to enough of my favorites via the Ortofon, the difference is profound. Much more detail in everything, and zero sense of harshness.

I may disassemble to the CA out of curiosity. I have no other plans for it.