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Interpersonal technical stuff and stubborn people that take the expert position but are not experts. This is like a Ann Flanders post!

A lot of people are something resembling a DSM diagnosis. I'd say that book is one of the most magnificent power grabs I can think of. All they had to do was write and publish it and then, by some astonishing magic I really haven't been able to fully understand, a goodly part of normal human experience was ipso facto pathological and therefore under the professional purview of the shrinks whose club published it. It's so successful that it changed language: ordinary people commonly talk in its terms instead of our own.
Medical science surely has a long way to advance in psychiatry, hopefully in a few years the big book of nutters will be consigned to history books along with phrenology. But it's better than what we had before, which isn't much comfort for the people who need help now.
 
Medical science surely has a long way to advance in psychiatry, hopefully in a few years the big book of nutters will be consigned to history books along with phrenology.
That big book represents, among other things, the result of a concerted attempt to rescue psychiatry from subjectivism that had brought it into a crisis of disrepute. That book is psychiatry stepping out boldly in its new scientific clothing. It's a story quite well told in Jon Ronson's The Psychopath Test. It's a funny, short, easy, engaging read I recommend.
 
That big book represents, among other things, the result of a concerted attempt to rescue psychiatry from subjectivism that had brought it into a crisis of disrepute. That book is psychiatry stepping out boldly in its new scientific clothing. It's a story quite well told in Jon Ronson's The Psychopath Test. It's a funny, short, easy, engaging read I recommend.
That is a great book, he is an engaging and interesting writer, his books never end up where you think they will.

I agree that the dsm needed doing, however badly it would age, to drive the science forward. I wonder how much of volume 1 has survived into the current edition, which already needs replacing.

One of the things I don't like about a lot of the current diagnoses is the use of the term disorder or other negative terms, when a lot of it is just classifying types of people who are different from some mythical normal.
 
Interpersonal stuff - it is hard...
I feel you frustration - right here in this forum, many members makes you go bonkers. "Why the insistence on having the last word?" "Why does this person does not recognize that by being here in ASR we agree fundamentally, I am just stating a preference?".

And yes, a lot of the times, I cannot help but to assume personality and/or mental health disorders! :D

I do try to recognize and reign in my own issues. I am weirdly triggered but many things, real or perceived. I do try to be forthcoming about them, not sure if it is wise around here, but hey, I do feel like the better person for it! :D

One cannot predict how persons are going to interact and connect. As a minority, my MAGA dear friend from work should scare me, but amazingly, we get along very well, bonding over audio and Rush ( ha! kind of cliche for him, but hey...). So there you go... to the OP, you can let it go, post here as therapy. Just make sure the interaction stays healthy - after all, you used the word friend - be patient and understanding.

IMHO
 
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One of the things I don't like about a lot of the current diagnoses is the use of the term disorder or other negative terms, when a lot of it is just classifying types of people who are different from some mythical normal.
Who on Earth has the arrogance to take upon themselves the authority to define normal human behavior (which the DSM does by elimination, i.e. enumerating all deviations)? To me it is an appalling idea, misguided and unethical at its core. Anyway, the answer is plainly those who warm their soup at that fire.

I hope I don't come off like a raving anti-psychiatry crank. I'm not all of those things. ;P
 
I have a friend that is a ranting technophile that knows little to nothing about audio electronics, audio files and what sounds good and why and he constantly rants and raves about flac files and MP3 being inferior as he listens to 50 year old crappy recordings and claims flac is so much better and look at his topping DAC sampling rate display and how it is so great. He is so unapproachable about facts and figures and rants about facts and figures that he imagines are superior. I have relegated myself to doing the, "Uhu Uhu" thing in effort and hope that the subject will simply pass by. I am near my wits end on the stuff and am becoming very annoyed at his arrogance, rudeness and persistence while using ridiculous analogies to describe electronics and software stuff. I am a polite guy that does not like confrontation and every time I attempt to state facts and figures he gets aggressive and overbearing. How is this experience for you peeps and how do you handle this sort of interpersonal rubbish? I mean we do it everyday here @ ASR but when it is in person it's a whole different dynamic and more annoying. I actually left his pad today with the excuse that I need dinner because I needed to get away. >@^_^@<
Ghost him. There's no use in trying to extinguish a house fire with a squirt gun.
 
Interpersonal stuff - it is hard...
I feel you frustration - right here in this forum, many members makes you go bonkers. "Why the insistence on having the last word?" "Why does this person does not recognize that by being here in ASR we agree fundamentally, I am just stating a preference?".

And yes, a lot of the times, I cannot help but to assume personality and/or mental health disorders! :D

I do try to recognize and reign in my own issues. I am weirdly triggered but many things, real or perceived. I do try to be forthcoming about them, not sure if it is wise around here, but hey, I do feel like the better person for it! :D

One cannot predict how persons are going to interact and connect. As a minority, my MAGA dear friend from work should scare me, but amazingly, we get along very well, bonding over audio and Rush ( ha! kind of cliche for him, but hey...). So there you go... to the OP, you can let it go, post here as therapy. Just make sure the interaction stays healthy - after all, you used the word friend - be patient and understanding.

IMHO
It is pretty normal though to try to get the last word in when having any argument or debate with someone, but it's good not to let things get out of control though, and to try to keep perspective.

You're quite the optimist. :)
It'll be good for him though!

Actually, all @Doodski needs to do is link him to this thread after he's advised his friend to have a look at ASR - just so he can see we've been talking about him, lol!
 
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