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Integra DRX-8.4

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It has good numbers, but the price is very high. Much higher than a Marantz C40
 

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Very very impressive, Dirac Live + DLBC upgradability + Roon Ready....
 

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It seems like a great product but I really feel that Integra should be competing on price and volume, not features and exclusivity. They should have kept this in the $2,500 price range.

The AVR high-end market is very packed with the Yamaha A8A and A6A, Sony 5000ES and 7000ES (and we're anxiously waiting to hear how they perform as they have some very interesting upgrades).


Then there's the Emotiva MR1 at $2,000 which has the new version of Emo-Q. 2 people chose it over the Marantz SR8012 and Cinema 40 which means that the room correction cannot be that horrible.
 

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It seems like a great product but I really feel that Integra should be competing on price and volume, not features and exclusivity. They should have kept this in the $2,500 price range.

The AVR high-end market is very packed with the Yamaha A8A and A6A, Sony 5000ES and 7000ES (and we're anxiously waiting to hear how they perform as they have some very interesting upgrades).


Then there's the Emotiva MR1 at $2,000 which has the new version of Emo-Q. 2 people chose it over the Marantz SR8012 and Cinema 40 which means that the room correction cannot be that horrible.

On the price, we have yet to see what the real "street price" will be...

There are very few AVR's with power specs near what is being advertised here - and those that do have that level of power are substantially more expensive....

It fills an interesting slot - high power, and probably (based on my experience with previous generation Onkyo/Integra flagship models of similar power) high current ability to handle low impedance speakers, "limited" to 7.2.4 - 11 channels + 2 sub channels (the alternatives at a similar power level, are 13 channels+subs), with the very well regarded Dirac room EQ.

Yes it has competitors, but each competitor makes differing compromises... more channels, less power; not all channels powered, weaker Room EQ, etc...

It's closest direct competitor is the no longer current, Denon X6700h, which at release sold for US$2500 but most lately at US$3000

D&M are not expected to rerelease a competitor in that segment for at least another year... with their AVR-A1H being a substantial notch upwards at US$6500... their X4800 has fewer powered channels, and lower power...

The Sony AZ7000 has similar power level and more channels (13.2) for US$3300.... differentiator = Dirac Vs Sony's proprietary system

Yamaha A8A is also a close competitor - similar power level, same channels, same DAC chipsets, US$3600 - Dirac vs Yama proprietary system

You look at its direct competitors - and the price is well positioned, and slightly lower than most of its competitors - with the additional option of adding DLBC - widely considered to be a superior bass management system to its competitors... although once you add that, it ends up at the top of the price scale... which is perhaps not inappropriate?

There are plenty of people using the JBL Synthesis SDR35/38 for 7.2.4 setups... they cost almost 3x what the 8.4 is coming out at - have more pre-out channels (15.2), but only 7 powered channels, and substantially less power. Feature set is very similar. US$8550

For AVR's that are capable of handling DLBC as of today, the Denon X3800 and X4800 come in cheapest, followed by the Integra 8.4... and anything is else costs heaps more. (and all of these are theoretically capable of running DL-ART).

We are finally setting up for some interesting competition in this segment of the market... !
 

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On the price, we have yet to see what the real "street price" will be...

There are very few AVR's with power specs near what is being advertised here - and those that do have that level of power are substantially more expensive....

It fills an interesting slot - high power, and probably (based on my experience with previous generation Onkyo/Integra flagship models of similar power) high current ability to handle low impedance speakers, "limited" to 7.2.4 - 11 channels + 2 sub channels (the alternatives at a similar power level, are 13 channels+subs), with the very well regarded Dirac room EQ.

Yes it has competitors, but each competitor makes differing compromises... more channels, less power; not all channels powered, weaker Room EQ, etc...

It's closest direct competitor is the no longer current, Denon X6700h, which at release sold for US$2500 but most lately at US$3000

D&M are not expected to rerelease a competitor in that segment for at least another year... with their AVR-A1H being a substantial notch upwards at US$6500... their X4800 has fewer powered channels, and lower power...

The Sony AZ7000 has similar power level and more channels (13.2) for US$3300.... differentiator = Dirac Vs Sony's proprietary system

Yamaha A8A is also a close competitor - similar power level, same channels, same DAC chipsets, US$3600 - Dirac vs Yama proprietary system

You look at its direct competitors - and the price is well positioned, and slightly lower than most of its competitors - with the additional option of adding DLBC - widely considered to be a superior bass management system to its competitors... although once you add that, it ends up at the top of the price scale... which is perhaps not inappropriate?

There are plenty of people using the JBL Synthesis SDR35/38 for 7.2.4 setups... they cost almost 3x what the 8.4 is coming out at - have more pre-out channels (15.2), but only 7 powered channels, and substantially less power. Feature set is very similar. US$8550

For AVR's that are capable of handling DLBC as of today, the Denon X3800 and X4800 come in cheapest, followed by the Integra 8.4... and anything is else costs heaps more. (and all of these are theoretically capable of running DL-ART).

We are finally setting up for some interesting competition in this segment of the market... !
The price wouldn’t matter to me if I didn’t have separate power amps already, so for people who have not switched to separates it’s good, but for some of us looking for a cheap AVR to do AVP duties, it’s not as cost effective. I hope the RZ70 still comes out, or even Integra 7.4?
 

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The price wouldn’t matter to me if I didn’t have separate power amps already, so for people who have not switched to separates it’s good, but for some of us looking for a cheap AVR to do AVP duties, it’s not as cost effective. I hope the RZ70 still comes out, or even Integra 7.4?

That was my point, the price difference between the RZ50 and Integra 8.4 is nearly double.
 

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On the price, we have yet to see what the real "street price" will be...

There are very few AVR's with power specs near what is being advertised here - and those that do have that level of power are substantially more expensive....


It's closest direct competitor is the no longer current, Denon X6700h, which at release sold for US$2500 but most lately at US$3000

D&M are not expected to rerelease a competitor in that segment for at least another year... with their AVR-A1H being a substantial notch upwards at US$6500... their X4800 has fewer powered channels, and lower power...

D+M are really heading into "light sound" theaters or required separates from other manufacturers as their transformers are not really meant to compete with others. They are kinda the Diet Coke of AVRs and I'm sure Ken Ishiwata would agree with that :)

Exactly, the 6700h released at $2,500. At that price point, the Integra would have been a very solid contender. It's twice the price of the RZ50 and if you slap a BasX A3 to amp your LCR, you're still at $2,200. Personally, I'd get the A7 ($150 extra) and bi-amp my LCR for the larger toroidal (Rotel size) and extra capacitance.

It's imperative that this unit benches with 7 channels and there better be no "nannies" whatsoever. My 8002s put out 110 watts in 7 channels and have no fans.
 
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Is there an Onkyo equivalent (RZ70?) incoming too? Integra doesn't sell in my country (Italy).
 

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Is there an Onkyo equivalent (RZ70?) incoming too? Integra doesn't sell in my country (Italy).
Presumably Onkyo and Pioneer announcements are on the way...
 

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I talked to my custom installer who’s authorized dealer of Integra to asked about eta. Integra said they are targeting late May/Early June to release this beast
 

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Are there any AVRs with DLBC multisub at a lower price? This looks like the cheapest thing out there from my search, so while "not cheap", I'm still excited. Fundamentally it's going to come down to whether ART is an eventual upgrade. I guess I need to wait until later in the year for that landscape to settle out...
 

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Are there any AVRs with DLBC multisub at a lower price? This looks like the cheapest thing out there from my search, so while "not cheap", I'm still excited. Fundamentally it's going to come down to whether ART is an eventual upgrade. I guess I need to wait until later in the year for that landscape to settle out...
If you're willing to wait until sometime in 2024 for DLBC, the X3800H would technically be cheaper ($1700 + ~$800 for DL+DLBC). I would not expect ART to come to the X3800H, though it might make it to this Integra? Also, this Integra DRX-8.4 is a heck of a lot more receiver than the X3800H (more like yet-to-be-released X6800H territory), so I do think you're getting your money's worth.
 

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If you're willing to wait until sometime in 2024 for DLBC, the X3800H would technically be cheaper ($1700 + ~$800 for DL+DLBC). I would not expect ART to come to the X3800H, though it might make it to this Integra? Also, this Integra DRX-8.4 is a heck of a lot more receiver than the X3800H (more like yet-to-be-released X6800H territory), so I do think you're getting your money's worth.
Yeah, the long delay for DLBC on the X3800H is pretty shocking for me, especially considering that the Integra is coming with it available out of the box (you can buy the upgrades now on Dirac's site).
 
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Presumably Onkyo and Pioneer announcements are on the way...
I've just checked Dirac page and for this Integra you'd be able to get DLBC multi-sub now!
Think I'll further postpone my Onkyo PR-RZ5100 replacement and wait for it (or more likely its Onkyo counterpart) instead of the original plan of buying a Denon 3800/4800 when they get the Dirac firmware upgrade.
 

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Yeah, the long delay for DLBC on the X3800H is pretty shocking for me, especially considering that the Integra is coming with it available out of the box (you can buy the upgrades now on Dirac's site).
It's deceptive... Onkyo have been working on their integration for at least 2 years... since well before the RZ50 was released.... and that was after having integrated Dirac Live on the RZ50 & siblings

I think D&M only changed strategy to include Dirac more recently.... so they started about a year ago probably...
 
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