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Inexpensive AES3 devices, also audio-over CAT (AES59 & AES72)

john61ct

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Thanks to @Frunse for turning me on to the various AES- related digital transport media formats, especially AES3 aka AES/EBU.

My system after per-driver amping, MBM reinforcement + several trueSubs, in general active crossovers and signal upmixing may end up with 20+ output channels.

I am pretty poor, so my multichannel interfaces / format converters must cost low hundreds rather than thousands, shooting for $15-30 per channel.

I've been dismayed by the added per-port costs of managing, neatly organizing even purely physical / mechanical wiring issues, sometimes greater than the actual AD/DA converters!

So, the goals for this thread:

1. scratch pad for my notes, general questions and discussion on the below topics welcome

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2. collecting as complete a list as possible of format conversion devices that include (to or from) any of the various standards related to AES/EBU, including Coax BNC AES3id

but the per-port cost MUST be low, no thousand-dollar devices please!

SMSL SU-2 and Eitr 2 being great exemplars, already well covered in other threads but worth summarising again for this context.

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3. S/PDIF coax RCA and AES3 share the same audio data transmission standards, so dealing with electrical / mechanical issues like voltage and impedance are enough to get bidirectional conversion, usually requiring active devices, but sometimes (within short enough distances and clean EMI/RF contexts) cheaper passive solutions have good odds of success.

USB to/from S/PDIF is not expensive and obviously TOSlink to/from coax even more trivial, so all the common digital connection formats well covered. TOSlink giving 100% galvanic isolation is a plus

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4. Finally, delving into audio-over CAT5e/6 structured wiring including breakouts from both DB-25 and RJ11, AES72 & AES59

These also designed to work for analog signal transport, usually true-balanced, so that's a big plus for post-DAC routing if that is centralised.

Use of Shielded quad twisted pair QTP via STP is required for proper Grounding, a critical topic here

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Another example device, will take me a while to get to it...

Mini-YGDAI expansion card for Yamaha format converters and "matrix router" mixers, audio processors / DSP engines

MY-16AE

 
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4. Finally, delving into audio-over CAT5e/6 structured wiring including breakouts from both DB-25 and RJ11, AES72 & AES59

These also designed to work for analog signal transport, usually true-balanced, so that's a big plus for post-DAC routing if that is centralised.
Works fine for digital as well.
Use of Shielded quad twisted pair QTP via STP is required for proper Grounding, a critical topic here
Depends but can't hurt.
 
Works fine for digital as well.
Yes hence the "also"

Primary topic here is the digital side.

Analog (in that one QTP audio-over-CAT sub topic) gets to ride along for free.

The attraction of AES for me is long runs and shielding from noise

the QTP it's light / thin snakes, neat and permanent racks of structured punchdowns - I used to be a LAN guy

so I plan to do it right wrt grounding, AES48-2005, Whitlock/Muncy solution from chassis to Pin 1 end to end...
 
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